Bloomberg Moves Closer to Running for President

NYTimes ^ | 12/31/07 | Sam Roberts

[Recovering_Democrat]

Good. Let the billionaire peel off some liberal votes. I love it.

[Does so]

A Ross Perot nightmare - for the democrats...

Not if Ron Paul goes 3rd party too.

[paudio]

The poll was taken in June, when (1) people didn't have much information about the Republican candidates yet, (2)nor did they know much about Bloomberg's position, (3) the mood against Republican was stronger as people weren't sure about the results of the surge in Iraq.

When the campaigns start and the Republicans point out on how socially liberal Bloomberg is, and how ardent proponent of gun-grabber he is, the dynamic may change completely. Not to mention his position on immigration.

[Calpernia]

>>>What do you think, is Bloomberg the ‘pitcher’ or the ‘catcher’?

I really don't want to lend it that much thought. ::shivers::

What I find much more important is the shared affiliation of StonewallVets with NAMBLA:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts

Excerpt:

History

NAMBLA emerged from the tumultuous political atmosphere of the 1970s, particularly from the leftist wing of the Gay Liberation movement which followed the 1969 Stonewall Riots in New York City. Although discussion of gay adult-minor sex did take place, gay rights groups immediately following the Stonewall Riot were more concerned with issues of police harassment, nondiscrimination in employment, health care and other areas.

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And also, Harry Hay's, the founder of Stonewall and NAMBLA, was affiliated with communism:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts?page=91#91

Excerpt:

Harry Hay
Pioneer, coalition-builder and radical faerie

A tall and muscular young man, Hay worked as both an extra and ghostwriter in 1930s Hollywood. He developed a passion for theater, and performed on Los Angeles stages with Anthony Quinn in the 1930s, and with Will Geer, who became his lover. Geer (who later generations grew to love as Grandpa Walton on the TV series “The Waltons”), took Hay to the San Francisco General Strike of 1934, and indoctrinated him into the American Communist Party. Hay became an active trade unionist. A blend of Marxist analysis and stagecraft strongly influenced his later gay organizing.

Despite a decade of gay life, in 1938 Hay married the late Anita Platky, also a Communist Party member. The couple were stalwarts of the Los Angeles Left.

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So, anyone affiliated with Stonewall, Human Rights Campaign, GLBT, Lavender Caucus, Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition, Log Cabin Republicans, VictoryFunds, and some others ALL have published, admitted, affiliations of this group. Therefore they are also affiliated with NAMBLA, Communism and the antiwar movement.

Stonewall's AntiWar movement funded by International A.N.S.W.E.R.

Stonewall Warriors A.N.S.W.E.R. 31 Germania St. Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Phone: 617-522-6626 Fax: 617-983-3836

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[AdaGray]

It’s amazing what money and ego will do to one’s perception of reality. This guy doesn’t have the slightest chance of being elected President now or ever.

[Paul_B]

Considering that the Pub candidate is likely to be a “moderate” such as McCain or Romney, it seems to me that a Bloomberg run hurts the Pubs far more than the dems, because he’s now mostly considered a Pub. This would be the lock for H. taking the WH, just as Perot (intentionally) was for Bill.

The only way for this calculus to change would be for the Pubs to nominate a clearly conservative, viable candidate (no one really comes to mind at this point, unfortunately), or a really charismatic candidate such as Petraeus. That triangulation would set the Pub guy against H and Bloomberg, who would then cannibalize each other. That would indeed be sweet. Lacking that, though, I don’t view a Bloomberg candidacy as good news at all.

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[commonguymd]

I agree. I think, no matter what folks here think, that a Bloomberg run will spell disaster for the Republican party.

[imdref]

Bloomberg is not a Republican he was a Liberal Democrat and ran as Rino in NY to be Mayor. He is a tried and true Liberal and will take votes from a Democrat not a Republican.

That depends on who the GOP nominates. If it's Giuliani, then how does Rudy not suffer?

[phillyfanatic]

An anti-gun, pacifist, socialist, Hey Mike run. You might actually take some votes from the socialist pacifists running in the Dem Party! How sweet. No Pub with any morality, common sense would have vote for this thug. Or at least they should not.

[TYVets]

It’s amazing what money and ego will do to one’s perception of reality.

This guy doesn't’t have the slightest chance of being elected President now or ever.

Perhaps he can get Ted Turner to run on the ticket with him.

With their ego's both would be running for president and neither running as vice president.

[big'ol_freeper]

We've already got Romney and his merry band of liberals running. What's one more. Were did all these loser RINOs come from?




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[dellbabe68]

I was thinking he would grab Independents.

[dellbabe68]

I was thinking he would grab Independents.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

I truly don’t see how enough “Republican votes” will end up going to a “moderate third political party” instead. Too many people still remember how having Ross Perot in the ‘92 Presidential race helped Democrat Bill Clinton become POTUS for the next eight years (although there are polls that say that if Perot wasn’t in that race that Perot’s votes would of ended up being split 50/50 between Clinton and Bush). I still believe that this possible ‘08 Presidential run by either Bloomberg or by whoever runs for President instead of Bloomberg will end up taking away much more votes from the final Democratic Presidential nominee than from the final Republican Presidential nominee. The total “leftist” vote in the general election will also possibly be split even more with the final Green Party Presidential nominee and also with the possible entrance of Ralph Nader into the Presidential race. I also don’t see the majority of conservatives splitting enough of the final general election votes with: the Republicans, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, “Bloombergs Group of Bi-Politicians Party”, and others. The majority of conservatives will just stick with the Republican Party this time.

[gondramB]

>>run bloomberg run!<<

I'm thinking the only way a conservative 3rd party run makes sense is if Hillary and Guiliani get the nominations and Bloomberg enters the race - then you split the liberal vote three ways a 3rd party conservative could actually win and not just be a spoiler.

[napscoordinator]

The arrogance of this man is beyond description.

What? Since when is wanting to run for President arrogant? I thought anyone over 35 is able to run for President as long as they were born here, not a criminal, etc. What is wrong with America that says you can’t run for President because it does not fit my agenda. Of course, I would not vote for the guy, but to call him arrogant for doing so is not credible in this free society.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Good, I wont feel so guilty then if I cast a principled vote for THIRD PARTY CONSERVATIVE in the General Election, if it turns out a RINO-Ripon Republican gets the nomination.

[Smokin' Joe]

Well, he won't get any votes from any gun owners who have been paying the least bit of attention to his extralegal tactics attacking firearms dealers well outside of New York.

One more reason to keep supporting Hunter...

[britt reed]

I was thinking he would grab Independents.

Sorry about coming down so harshly. I don't believe he attracts small "L" libertarians. He's too much of a nanny-staters. His concern runs along the trans-fat, non-smoking, yadda-yadda issues.

[dellbabe68]

No harm done. Happy New Year.