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To: RetiredArmy; discostu
We DID NOT LOSE ON THE BATTLE FIELD IN VIETNAM!!! We kicked the NVA and the Cong’s dirty asses. THE WAR WAS LOST IN WASHINGTON, D.C. We did not lose it in the field. The ass holes in Sodom on the Potomac lost it.

That is absolutely true!

The U.S. military never lost a battle in Viet Nam - not a one - and the South Vietnamese government only fell - long after all U.S. forces had been removed - when the dimocrats in congress cut off all funding.

69 posted on 12/22/2007 11:29:28 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun

There were still some US forces when we left, not many but some. Of course the punchline is we never needed that treaty that the democrats never honored, we could have won the war outright. But we lacked the will to fight to win, we lacked the desire to do more than just let our military win battles, we lacked the balls to construct a series of battle plans that would have taken control of the entire country, and therefore we lost. The lesson of Vietnam is there’s a lot more to fighting a war than winning a bunch of battles, that if you’re not actually willing to win a war your record in battles doesn’t matter, that you can be 1,000,000-0 in the battle count but if you lack the commitment you’ll be 0-1 in the war.


74 posted on 12/22/2007 1:54:16 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: Bigun; discostu; RetiredArmy
"For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a trimphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.” - General George S. Patton Jr.

From FlAttorney's FR "Straight Talk" page

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77 posted on 12/22/2007 2:27:57 PM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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