[discostu]

There were still some US forces when we left, not many but some. Of course the punchline is we never needed that treaty that the democrats never honored, we could have won the war outright. But we lacked the will to fight to win, we lacked the desire to do more than just let our military win battles, we lacked the balls to construct a series of battle plans that would have taken control of the entire country, and therefore we lost. The lesson of Vietnam is there’s a lot more to fighting a war than winning a bunch of battles, that if you’re not actually willing to win a war your record in battles doesn’t matter, that you can be 1,000,000-0 in the battle count but if you lack the commitment you’ll be 0-1 in the war.

[Bigun]

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

Cicero About 2500 years ago