[RetiredArmy]

You need to get your facts straight before using your blow hole. We did not lose the military war in Vietnam. We pulled out of Vietnam because a bunch of liberal lawmakers in D.C. had no stomach for it any longer and LBJ had screwed up the war by trying to run the damned thing from 15,000 miles away. The troops in the field kicked the reds asses. We lost about 58,000 troops. They lost a couple of million. We beat their ass. You can whine all you want to about we lost the war, but the military did not lose. The military was pulled out. We abandoned the South Vietnamese and left them to be murdered. THAT was done by puss sucking politicians, in D.C. Not the troops in the field. We won the military war. We lost the political war. The military was not responsible for the political war.

[discostu]

You need to stop reading into what I’m saying and looking for a fight, just read what I ACTUALLY wrote. I never said we lost it militarily, I said we lost it. Because we DID lose Vietnam, the how only matters in that we should use it to remind us not to get into wars we aren’t actually committed to. But that’s immaterial, we lost the war, the fact that we won every battle doesn’t change the fact that we fled the country with our tail between our legs, we lost Vietnam, that is a simple non-negotiable fact. It’s not whining, it’s not something from my blow hole, it’s the truth. We lost the war. I didn’t blame the military, you assumed I did but that’s YOUR assumption all we all know about ass-u-me, I just said we lost, because we did.