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To: OCCASparky; Allan; Shermy; Sidebar Moderator
I've been on FR for more than 6 years, and this is the worst abuse of "Breaking News" I have ever seen.

This isn't breaking news, it's just a second-hand unsourced report that one guy misheard while watching TV, and the false report is very inflammatory.

Of course Ron Paul didn't say what you thought he said. The first clue should be that it's completely out of character with his stated belief that national defense is one of the primary purposes of the Federal government. The second clue should have been that he supported taking action in Afghanistan and against Osama Bin Laden.

What Ron Paul was saying was that, to go to war, the Constitution requires Congress to pass a declaration of war. He was asked whether it is ever acceptable for the President to take the country to war unilaterally, without getting Congressional approval first. His answer was that there might be occasional situations where there was no time to obtain the consent of Congress (one example that comes to mind is a decision to retaliate if the U.S. were ever to be the target of a massive nuclear first strike; one can think of other possibilities as well).

His statement was not that there has never been a need for the U.S. to retaliate. What he said that there has never yet been a need for the President to retaliate unilaterally, without sufficient time to get Congressional approval first.

Think what you will about Ron Paul, but be honest about his views.

I don't know what things have come to where strict interpretation of the Constitution is ridiculed on FreeRepublic. Disagree with Paul about the war and foreign policy, if you disagree. But we shouldn't be ridiculing the philosophy of small government and strict interpretation of the Constitution.

Anyway, this isn't Breaking News, and it does FR a disservice for a false hearsay report to be at the top of Breaking News for an extended period of time.

331 posted on 12/22/2007 9:19:14 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell

Read the the entire thread. There are links to Youtube and others that show what is posted, is exactly what was said by Paul. Yep, Paul said it and not out of context.


333 posted on 12/22/2007 9:23:00 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Mitchell

Yeah....poor misunderstood Paul...

Several minutes of speaking about 9-11 conspiracies, followed up with “but there wasn’t a conspiracy...”

fascism will come wrapped in a flag carrying a cross...Huckster’s sending subtle messages that he’s the only Christian...”but I don’t know if that’s REALLY the case here”

pics with stormfront...

oh wait...it’s all an anti-Paul conspiracy!


335 posted on 12/22/2007 9:29:25 AM PST by tpanther
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To: Mitchell
"I've been on FR for more than 6 years, and this is the worst abuse of "Breaking News" I have ever seen."

Bravo! If these RP trolls spent as much time promoting their own GOP candidate as they did trying to slime RP, we just might get a Republican into the White House. But I am thinking that they might rather Hillary win!

"I don't know what things have come to where strict interpretation of the Constitution is ridiculed on FreeRepublic. Disagree with Paul about the war and foreign policy, if you disagree. But we shouldn't be ridiculing the philosophy of small government and strict interpretation of the Constitution."

The slimers are always accusing the RP people of "spamming" and "whining". What's happening here is that the anti-Pauls are the ones spamming "Breaking News" and "whining" as a an anti-abortion, anti-amnesty" Republican continues to move up the polls. How sad!

340 posted on 12/22/2007 9:45:54 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Mitchell
Anyway, this isn't Breaking News, and it does FR a disservice for a false hearsay report to be at the top of Breaking News for an extended period of time.

And that is the choice of the forum owner. It is his property. We RP folk do believe in property rights after all.
350 posted on 12/22/2007 10:44:59 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Mitchell

We don’t ridicule his positions relative to small government and the Constitution. We ridicule him because he would be an unthinkable commander in chief. While we have sons and daughters in harms way, he joins the Democrats in giving sound bites to Al-Jazeera.

We brought on the attacks? No, I am damn tired of hearing that, and I don’t want an isolationist in the White House. Never will that man lead our armed forces.


398 posted on 12/22/2007 3:36:00 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Mitchell
This isn't breaking news, it's just a second-hand unsourced report that one guy misheard while watching TV, and the false report is very inflammatory.

Misheard? MISHEARD???

Pull your head out of your ass long enough to listen to this, my little apologist friend:

I "misheard" NOTHING. Fortunately for those of us in the digital age, I have digital cable which automatically saves the last hour of programming which I have. I replayed that clip several times BEFORE I decided to post, and then played it several MORE times in order to ensure that I did not transcribe it or misquote it in any way, shape, or form. Only then did I post it and with the disclaimer that I did not have a link but rather a timeline to the CSPAN program on which it aired.

In other words, dearest, STFU unless and until you know of which you speak. Other posters here before you in this thread have shown EXACTLY what has been said, and I did not misquote, lie, or otherwise distort what was said. The fault, if any, lies with your "leader" Congressman Paul.
432 posted on 12/22/2007 7:36:20 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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