I stood beside Ronald Reagan in his fight against the Evil Empire. Did I really "stand" beside him? No. I saw my parents fight against the evils of communism in their homeland. Did I actually see them do it? No. It is a figure of speech. I saw someone step up to the plate. I saw someone do the right thing. I saw how one person can make a difference. Is this seeing it literally with my own two eyes or seeing it in my mind's eye?
You people cannot be this daft, are you?
I think you better plead the 5th.
What part of My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit, was not a lie?
I have no dog in this fight and pray daily for the defeat of all democrats but if we replace them with the same type of political liars what have we gained? Not a damn thing.
Daft? You are a Fool!
The only desperate ones are Romney's spinners, trying to figure out how to "frame" his lie so it isn't really a lie.
Romney easily could have just cited his father's civil rights stand without embellishing it with false details. But he can't help himself, he seems to always add these false details to make the events seem grander. He could have been happy to have seen the LDS allow membership to blacks, but he had to make up a story about being a student who pulled over to the side of the road with tears in his eyes, despite not having been a student for 3 years at the time of the event.
Apparently, he's recovering somewhat, because 19 years ago, he claimed not only to have seen his dad march with King, but to have participated in it himself as well. (The Romney campaign issued a statement today admitting this, at least, was indeed a lie.)
You surely cannot be defending this lie with that kind of logic.
“Standing with Ronald Reagan in his fight” can truly be considered a figure of speech.
“My father and I marched with Dr King” is far, far, from a figure of speech, and I find your denial very troubling.
“My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit.”
...ooops no we didn’t. I meant figuratively.
“Steve King endorsed me. Its exciting.”
...oops no he didnt ..well we thought he did until he didn’t.
“NRA endorsed me while running for governor.”
....oops no they didn’t. well kinda it was an NRA poll which is kinda like getting it.
WAIT...I need to talk to my attorneys I think.
How many strikes does one get? Do you honestly think the Dems will give him a pass for these?
You missed the point of this post, Josh is saying that Mitt “lied” in 1978. Yes, he is attacking Mitt for something he did in 1978. I’m not sure but I’m betting there are people reading this thread who weren’t ALIVE in 1978.
I personally think going back more than 12 or so years is just too much, especially after what happened with George Allen last year (not Macaca, but the whole “n-word” stuff).
It’s nice to see the Romney campaign can read, understand, and adjust to new information. Up till a week ago most of us thought Romney had marched with King, now with some digging it appears he marched 6 days later than King because he wouldn’t march on Sunday (I wish more Christians would take the Lord’s day as seriously as Mormons do).
That was when Mitt was a teenager, about 15-16 years old. In 1978 apparently Mitt was asked and incorrectly recounted that MLK was in that march in 1963. (realise that is 15 years after a march where Romney was supposed to march with King but didn’t because of Sunday but marched 6 days later). And it was 11 years after a book was written which said Romney marched with King.
SO after all these years, decades really, of a family having come to believe that their father marched in a protest that MLK marched in, only NOW, in December of 2007, has anybody bothered to do detailed checks, and it turns out the marches were actually 6 days apart.
Of course, that doesn’t change the story’s point, and it doesn’t say anything about anything except that over the years recollections sometimes do not match reality in every detail.
The 1978 quote is decades ago, but reinforces the claim that everybody believed MLK was in that march with Romney in 1963.
BTW, this means there’s a 5th thing that was said about this that was false — the claim that Romney NEVER said anything about this until after his father died.
See, apparently in 1978, while his father was still alive, Romney said his dad and he marched with MLK. Maybe his father isn’t like my father, but if he was, he would have read the article, and if he knew it was wrong, he would have said something.
So that means that by 1978, Elder Romney was probably telling the same story. Not surprising, there’s no evidence he “corrected” the 1967 book that said the same thing.
But it does show that Romney didn’t wait till his father died to say this — a STORY told by mitt-haters because it implies Romney knew it wasn’t true and waited until his father couldn’t correct him.
You people are really desperate. I stood beside Ronald Reagan in his fight against the Evil Empire. Did I really "stand" beside him? No. I saw my parents fight against the evils of communism in their homeland. Did I actually see them do it? No. It is a figure of speech. I saw someone step up to the plate. I saw someone do the right thing. I saw how one person can make a difference. Is this seeing it literally with my own two eyes or seeing it in my mind's eye?
You people cannot be this daft, are you?
I think you better plead the 5th.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This huge flap is totally unbelievable to me. I am getting SO sick of this. It is not Romney that is parsing words it is everyone who is trying to make a story out of it.
Good points, great post.
I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.
Bad comparison. Try again.
You're seriously reaching.
I’m not a Romney supporter, but I think FR ought to create a “What the Boston Globe says about Romney” hotlink for daily updates.