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Romney never saw father on King march
The Boston Globe ^ | December 21, 2007 | Michael Levenson

Posted on 12/21/2007 9:58:28 AM PST by Josh Painter

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101 posted on 12/21/2007 11:25:12 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Badeye

See my tagline.

Conservatives without exception who know how to tell the truth.


102 posted on 12/21/2007 11:26:28 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Safetgiver

True. And we know that intention is all that matters.


103 posted on 12/21/2007 11:27:46 AM PST by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: Badeye
Its this that big of a deal to you?

Since I'm having a hard trying to convince myself he could have been mistaken when he made the original comments, maybe it is. He also made a similar statement about the NRA endorsement he never received.

Mitt is no dummy. He has to know his statements will be checked. So why risk so much on one story that would not make that much difference to his candidacy were it true but which could definitely hurt it because it's not? He also denied he ever said he was pro choice though video shows him emphatically stating it. It's been one thing after another.

Mitt has a truth and credibility problem. The problem is his. He made it by his own statements and by running and governing as a moderate/liberal Republican and then verbally morphing into a conservative just before his run for President. It all adds up. Not one incident. Not one statement. The whole package.

104 posted on 12/21/2007 11:27:48 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: kevkrom

‘McCain may be a nutjob, but he’s not prone to embellishment.’

He lost me with the Keating Five, then reaffirmed I was correct in not supporting him with his decade long snide attacks on conservatives like myself. CFR just reinforced my position on him.

” Thompson’s a straight-shooter.”

I had high hopes for Fred Thompson, but his ‘walking’ for the Presidency, instead of Running for the Presidency has kept him from being taken seriously by the voters in the primaries, as the polls demonstrate conclusively. I wish that wasn’t the case.

’ I have no reason to doubt Paul’s sincerity, only his sanity.’

So you’ll overlook his insanity, but not one line in a Romney speech, even though its certain he’s not insane? No way I’d ever vote for the Ronulan, see my tag line.

” And Hunter also seems to be a straight-shooter. Pick one of them.”

Like Thompson, I’ve been disappointed with his performance in the debates leading up to the primaries. He can’t win the GOP nomination for the simple reason that while his positions are pretty good, his delivery and ability to lead is lacking. Again, I wish it wasn’t so.

You want me to support candidates that have low to zero chance of being in the game come November of 2008.

I appreciate your straight answer, thank you.


105 posted on 12/21/2007 11:28:12 AM PST by Badeye (The two “no” votes were cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.)
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To: Josh Painter
Red freaking Herring.

MSM WANTS HUCKABEE
106 posted on 12/21/2007 11:29:29 AM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Badeye

Badeye wrote: “Who do you think I should support?”

If you don’t know by now, perhaps no one.


107 posted on 12/21/2007 11:30:14 AM PST by Josh Painter ("Managers are people who leaders hire." - Fred Thompson)
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To: trumandogz

Thanks.

Thompson could conceivably pull it out, but with each passing day that hope grows dimmer.

As I just noted, I wish Hunter had caught fire with the GOP base, but he’s out after Iowa in my opinion. He’s right on the issues from what I’ve seen, but his lack of charisma and leadership skills (as in getting people to follow him) doom his run. He’s politically a ‘dead man walking’. I take no joy in noting this.


108 posted on 12/21/2007 11:30:50 AM PST by Badeye (The two “no” votes were cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Wow, that’s no longer spinning, that’s self-delusional.

Mitt lied and got caught.

It’s a small thing, but brings into question Mitt’s sudden conversion to conservatism.


110 posted on 12/21/2007 11:31:31 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian
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To: Badeye

As an amateur political adviser, I would advise a client to tell the truth when he is giving a speech about his faith.


111 posted on 12/21/2007 11:31:32 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Nicole5

Thanks for the reference. I have been noting that the march Romney was in was called an MLK march, but I didn’t have a link. But from your link:

“FACT: In The Summer Of 1963, Governor Romney Participated In Martin Luther King Jr.’s “Freedom Marches” In Grosse Pointe, Michigan.”

That puts three of the original story claims to bed. 1) the march was NOT in 1967; 2) so Mitt was NOT out of the country; 3) Romney DID march through Grosse Pointe.

But it also shows that the march was one of Martin Luther King’s marches.

So if Romney had said “My father walked IN Martin Luther King’s march”, he would have been completely accurate, even though that might still make some people think he was saying that Martin Luther King was in the march with him.

It’s this kind of thing that makes history so interesting — people can’t remember what they did 4 days ago, but some people are getting upset over one word describing a story from 4 decades ago.

Well, in fact, they aren’t getting upset. The only people who are screaming about how “bad” this is are people who hate Romney already.


112 posted on 12/21/2007 11:31:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Route66

What are you going to do if he gains the nomination come November of 08?


113 posted on 12/21/2007 11:31:48 AM PST by Badeye (The two “no” votes were cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.)
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To: Badeye
The subject at hand was honesty. Of the seven guys officially in the race (let's not count Keyes or Cox here), three of them have serious honesty problems, four don't.

If you want to talk about other issues, that's for different topics, but I will point out if your only reason for not liking Thompson or Hunter is that you're disappointed in their polling status, you're doing yourself a disservice. The only polls that matter are the ones where they actually count votes. Let's see how those go before we write anyone off, shall we?

114 posted on 12/21/2007 11:31:49 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’m sure that in your family lore, you don’t have a single story that, if thouroughly investigated, might turn out to be remembered incorrectly. But this happens in my family, and probably in almost every normal family. You tell the stories again and again, and they change, and the telling becomes the memory.

That may be the case for something that happened before I was born, but not a thing that I witnessed. Regardless, Mitt hasn't made that defense. He's said his statement in the "Faith in America" speech was only meant figuratively, and he actually got rather prissy defending that point of view by pointing to his English major credentials and the dictionary definitions of "saw".

The trouble for him is that this 1978 statement to a reporter has emerged, and you can't even fit that one into a "I meant it figuratively" meme. It's way too specific. It underscores my belief that Mitt was just lying in '07, and that his "figurative" spin was just a panicked attempt at explanation that he probably should have waited on a little before committing to.

Why would Romney purposely lie about this in 1978, and again in 2007? Maybe he's just a born liar, Charles. You know that that's been one of the main objections to the man even before this came out.

115 posted on 12/21/2007 11:32:36 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: kevkrom
No, it was a calcualted lie

Post proof that this was "calculated". After all, you REFUTE YOUR OWN claim in your same paragraph, as you note that such a lie would be "pointless" and would obviously NOT do what you claim it was "calculated" to do.

116 posted on 12/21/2007 11:33:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: trumandogz

If Romney gains the nomination, what will you do?


117 posted on 12/21/2007 11:33:30 AM PST by Badeye (The two “no” votes were cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.)
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To: Badeye

I agree, Thompson all to often looks like a man being walked to the electric chair rather than a man running for the presidency. It is frustrating and at first I thought that Fred was simply playing the role of the reluctant candidate, running for America and not himself.


118 posted on 12/21/2007 11:33:59 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: lesser_satan

Well, the stories often interchange “Grosse Pointe” and “Detroit”, so I don’t see what the problem is with that. And we know for a fact that Romney marched in a Martin Luther King Freedom March in 1963 in Detroit, that is in Grosse Pointe.


120 posted on 12/21/2007 11:35:14 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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