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Population Implosion
World Magazine ^ | 2/15/2003 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 12/08/2007 3:13:57 PM PST by Jim W N

The president of Estonia goes on national TV to urge his countrymen to have more children. Russian President Vladimir Putin warns his parliament about "a serious crisis threatening Russia's survival": the nation's low birth rate. The government of Singapore is trying to reverse that country's birth dearth by sponsoring a massive taxpayer-funded matchmaking service.

In 1968, Paul Ehrlich published The Population Bomb, panicking the world with dire predictions of a population explosion. By the year 2000, he predicted, the world would be so crowded that hundreds of millions would die of starvation. Although Mr. Ehrlich's prophecies have turned out to be almost comically wrong, PBS has produced a documentary taking him seriously, and philanthropists like Ted Turner still donate millions to combat population growth.

But the problem today is not overpopulation; it's under-population. For a population to reproduce itself, the fertility rate must average 2.1 children per woman. (The .I allows for child mortality.) The fertility rate today among major developed nations is only 1.6.

The United States is rare among its peers in keeping its fertility rate at around the replacement level of 2.1, according to the Population Reference Bureau, which provided the fertility data cited here. Europe, though, is shrinking. Germany's rate is 1.3. Despite the stereo-type of large Catholic families, France has a fertility rate of 1.9 and Italy has one of the lowest in Europe, 1.3. At this rate, there will be only about half as many Italians in the next generation. There will also be fewer Russians, whose fertility rate is 1.3.

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To: Jim 0216
That said, population increase in a free country with a free market economy is a boom not a bust. The Liberals or those with confused economic thinking are the only ones who put a negative on people and (legal) population growth.

We can control the population growth by controlling legal immigration. The problem is that our legal immigration problems are not designed to benefit this country. We are importing millions of high school dropouts who will not help us be competitive in the global economy.

Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States: A Book of Charts by Robert E. Rector

81 posted on 12/08/2007 6:52:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: SShultz460
People will have the kids, but refuse to actually rear them themselves.

The wealthy always have anyway except some spent amounts of quality time with their children/families. Most were too busy doing their own thing, business, governing, parties, just like our times. Nanny, governess, wet nurse, day care, what is the essential difference? Sometimes web nurses were because of illness/inability to nurse, so that wouldn't count, but I suspect some didn't want the bother of it.

82 posted on 12/08/2007 6:52:33 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Jim 0216
One meaning of sorceries is the use of hallucinogenic drugs, a liberal mainstay.

Yes, that would definitely fit imo, even some legal ones.

83 posted on 12/08/2007 6:55:40 PM PST by Aliska
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To: ichabod1

We won’t catch up anytime soon but the Chinese have a fertility rate of 1.75 [compared to our 2.09] and an annual population growth rate of .606% compared to our .894%. India will eventually become the largest with a current fertility rate of 2.81 and an annual population growth rate of 1.606%.


84 posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: ProCivitas

You’re right. The fight isn’t lost until it’s lost.


85 posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:45 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: ProCivitas
Good, big families don't really cost that much.

Aye, all the more hands to help you in your age... and to lay you gently beside your fathers. Would that inheritance did not get taken by the state, that a family might be given the work of its generations, too.

It is a good point to ponder, eh?

86 posted on 12/08/2007 7:05:46 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: kabar

yes, but China’s demographic ebb starts in 7 years or so and gets very very dramatic after that.


87 posted on 12/08/2007 7:17:24 PM PST by SShultz460 (If peace is the answer; it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Jim 0216
This is an astounding line from Mark Steyn's book.

Referring to the extremely low Italian birthrate

There's no need to extrapolate, and if you do it gets a little freaky, but, just for fun, here goes: by 2050, 60 per cent of Italians will have no brothers, no sisters, no cousins, no aunts, no uncles.

88 posted on 12/08/2007 7:22:00 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: roamer_1

It’s a very, very good point to ponder.


89 posted on 12/08/2007 7:22:50 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: kabar
We are importing millions of high school dropouts who will not help us be competitive in the global economy.

Disagree. Minimum wage is the culprit here. As long as these people are bona-fide legal immigrants who want to be free to make a living, let 'em come. That's what we're here for. The Entitlement Society of the Liberals is what's killing us, not bona-fide immigrants.

90 posted on 12/08/2007 8:12:32 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216; ichabod1; WorkingClassFilth; Popocatapetl; bilhosty; Popman; RightWhale; taxed2death; ...
Still bears repeating:

"Northern Nations need stronger identity, cultural coherence, and mutual allegiance." -- ProCivitas 4/07

91 posted on 12/08/2007 8:30:30 PM PST by ProCivitas (Pro-America = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Duncan Hunter. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: roamer_1

a very good point.


92 posted on 12/08/2007 10:40:57 PM PST by ProCivitas (Pro-America = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Duncan Hunter. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Jim 0216
Europe, though, is shrinking. Germany's rate is 1.3. Despite the stereo-type of large Catholic families, France has a fertility rate of 1.9 and Italy has one of the lowest in Europe, 1.3. At this rate, there will be only about half as many Italians in the next generation. There will also be fewer Russians, whose fertility rate is 1.3.

Actually it's worse than that. If you SUBTRACT the fertility of those countries sizable Muslim minorities, the fertility rates are far worse.
93 posted on 12/08/2007 10:46:40 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Jim 0216

China’s one child policy is going to bring them to their knees in the next 20 years.


94 posted on 12/08/2007 10:55:25 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Popman

“in at the end of Hillary second POTUS term to insure another Dhimmcrat in the WH, she granted a general amnesty “

It’s not just Hillary. Our buddy George Bush tried to do the same thing. This is not a Dem/Rep issue. This is a ‘we the people’ vs elites issue. And there is no difference between the political parties. HIllary and George are the same.


95 posted on 12/09/2007 5:06:04 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: Jim 0216
Disagree. Minimum wage is the culprit here. As long as these people are bona-fide legal immigrants who want to be free to make a living, let 'em come. That's what we're here for. The Entitlement Society of the Liberals is what's killing us, not bona-fide immigrants.

You obviously didn't read the link I provided to you. You haven't a clue as to what is happening to this country. We are not here for "legal immigrants who want to be free to make a living," especially if they represent a drain on our society. We have to set limits on the numbers of legal immigrants and have a merit based system that will benefit this country. We also have to assimilate them.

Immigrants in the United States, 2007 A Profile of America’s Foreign-Born Population

100 Million More Projecting the Impact of Immigration On the U.S. Population, 2007 to 2060

96 posted on 12/09/2007 5:59:44 AM PST by kabar
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To: SShultz460
yes, but China’s demographic ebb starts in 7 years or so and gets very very dramatic after that.

Do you have any factual basis for that statement? What do you mean by a demographic ebb in 7 years? Negative population growth?

97 posted on 12/09/2007 6:02:00 AM PST by kabar
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
western civilization is on a bullet train to its death bed.

All the more reason to pull out of the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty.

98 posted on 12/09/2007 10:09:24 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: kabar
...and you're talking past the points I'm making. You know, we used to be 100% foreign born (except for the American Indian). I wonder how we survived? We not only survived but thrived. What in our land, society and culture has changed? Two major things:

1) The rise of big-government socialism and entitlements and

2) The rise of anti-Christianism in our institutions.

Blockading legal immigrants who truly want to enjoy the freedom to build their lives as they see fit is not the answer. Our country was built on Christian principles and freedoms contained in the U.S. Constitution and has thrived in a relatively free-market economy.

The limits you speak of should be not on those "yearning to breath free" but on our bloated government.

99 posted on 12/09/2007 11:44:43 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” Dennis Hayes, chief organizer—Earth Day 1

“At least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” Paul Ehrlich

“By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” Prof. Peter Gunter, North Texas State University

“In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half...” `Life’ Magazine, January 1970

“Air pollution... is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Paul Ehrlich

“By the year 2000... there won’t be any more crude oil.” Ecologist Kenneth Watt

“In 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary, Smithsonian Institute

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years... the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” Kenneth Watt

“In the 1970s and 1980s, hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash program embarked upon now.” Paul Ehrlich, “The Population Bomb” (1968)


100 posted on 12/09/2007 11:47:01 AM PST by CodeToad
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