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DPS was watching burglars shot by Horn
KHOU - Houston ^ | December 4, 2008 | Rucks Russell / 11 News

Posted on 12/04/2007 10:21:49 PM PST by Hardshell

Edited on 12/05/2007 4:02:19 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: DoughtyOne

The “clean hands” doctrine only applies to equitable remedies, like injunctions. It doesn’t apply to legal remedies, like damages.


61 posted on 12/05/2007 10:26:42 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Hardshell; xsmommy; Rte66

I wondered by Quanell “Jackson” X was involved since the perps weren’t black -


62 posted on 12/05/2007 10:32:15 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Gator Bowl Bound!!)
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To: DoughtyOne; lady lawyer
“As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property.”

Other than Federal lands, public highways, infrastructure, etc., the citizens own this country, period.

If we don't defend our properties, (even being killed in the process), it's up for grabs by thieves or illegal invaders or a foreign army. At this point, if we are being told that, it ain't worth it to get killed over property; Floridians might as well concede Florida to an invading Castro's army without firing a shot. (just an example :-) )

Frankly, I don't see any difference. Am I legally on the right track, Lady Lawyer?

63 posted on 12/05/2007 10:39:16 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: skeeter

“Reckless discharge” is when you miss.


64 posted on 12/05/2007 10:43:34 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: melancholy

Legally, perhaps not. Morally, I’m beginning to soften up on the proposition.


65 posted on 12/05/2007 10:44:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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To: Hardshell

Joe Horn - American Hero - shooting the bad guys - illegal invaders and criminals.


66 posted on 12/05/2007 10:47:24 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: skeeter
Mr Horn should be fined for reckless discharge of a firearm inside city limits.

reckless ??? I hope you got asbestos undies and an ABC extinguisher...

67 posted on 12/05/2007 11:45:50 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: ozzymandus
I’d say a phony driver’s license is the least of these dead criminal’s problems.

They no longer have *any* problems. In this world anyway. In the next they are probably in a place somewhat warmer than Houston in August.

68 posted on 12/05/2007 11:57:26 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: doodad
I had assumed the burglars to be black when I saw the “protest” and its community response.

I guess they looked black, that is how Joe Horn described them to the 911 operator. But it was known well before Quniell Ten staged his little photo op that backfired that they were Hispanic but I'm not sure if the authorities has sorted out were they were actually from by then. They had multiple documents from different countries, including the US (Puerto Rico).

69 posted on 12/05/2007 12:05:38 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hardshell
The two were shot and killed by Joe Horn, a Pasadena man who thought they were burglarizing his neighbor’s home last month.

Thought? He saw them break in, he saw them break out (yea they broke more glass to get out, rather than just unlocking a door). They had a bag of something (cash as it turned out) coming out that they did not have going in. He knew they didn't live there. Ergo, he *knew* they were burglarizing the neighbors house. "Innocent until proved guilty" is a requirement on the judicial system, not someone defending their neighbor's property and (later) their own person.

70 posted on 12/05/2007 12:12:07 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: dragnet2

Yep, and those eyes worked real well.../sarc


71 posted on 12/05/2007 12:14:50 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: wolfcreek

I believe this (non surprising) revelation justifies the gloves coming off in my opinion...


72 posted on 12/05/2007 12:16:41 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: DoughtyOne
As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property

That's because you don't really understand what a persons private property represents.

My property is a piece of my life. I worked hard for it. Every single thing I purchase cost time out of my life that I can never get back. Stealing something of mine is stealing a piece of my life that simply cannot be replaced.

For instance, let us say that I have a 50 inch plasma TV that cost $4,000.00. The number of hours that I worked to pay for that item can never be 'put back' into my life.

Therefore thieves aren't just stealing 'stuff', they stealing hours, days, weeks, or even months of my life.

And that is most certainly worth killing them over.

L

73 posted on 12/05/2007 12:19:47 PM PST by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Gilbo_3
Im positive that he has been removed of his shotgun

Probably, but all he has to do is drive to the nearest Wally World, gun shop, or sporting goods store to get another. After all he's not been charged with any crime, nor has he been arrested. He'll eventually get the one he used back, but for the moment, it's "evidence".

There's an Academy Sports right there in Pasedena, that has these:

H&R PROTECTOR HOME DEFENSE SHOTGUN for $169 plus tax.

74 posted on 12/05/2007 12:27:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Lurker

I agree with you. I still don’t like the idea of killing someone over property.


75 posted on 12/05/2007 12:29:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't 'like' the idea of killing anyone.

But my point is that killing a thief over property is a completely moral act IMO.

Especially if said thief or thieves are approaching me in a menacing manner during the commission of a crime.

In that circumstance, the life insurance policy on said thieves better be paid up.

L

76 posted on 12/05/2007 12:32:15 PM PST by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: skeeter
Mr Horn should be fined for reckless discharge of a firearm inside city limits.

What was reckless about it? There's been no reports of "collateral damage". A shotgun is the very best for avoiding that. Inside, you may blow a big hole in your own wall, but outside, it's not likely that you'll do more than scratch the paint or a chip a window on a neighbor's house or vehicle. Especially true if you load something lighter than 00 buck, or any buck at all. Even bird shot would be devastating at 15 feet, but nearly harmless at 100 yards. (Instant hamburger).

77 posted on 12/05/2007 12:34:30 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Lurker

If a guy were walking out of my house with my property, you better believe I’d stop him. And I wouldn’t be above using lead to do it. I’m not going to mix it up with him. That shouldn’t be my burden.

I agree with you in principle. I just wouldn’t like being put in that position.

It’s one thing to reason as we do, but it’s entirely another to put an actual bullet in a guy over a VCR. Would I? Probably so.


78 posted on 12/05/2007 12:37:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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To: stevie_d_64

They just busted a group of nine *Hispanics* up here in Austin doing the same thing. (homes, cars, businesses)

Their smug little faces in print made me want to shoot the paper.


79 posted on 12/05/2007 12:40:08 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Hardshell

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


80 posted on 12/05/2007 12:54:33 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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