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Insane. It`s like someone with a credit card that can barely make the minimum monthly payment. We could eliminate Social Security, Medicare, and defense spending and probably still have problems paying off the debt. We`re heading toward a crash, and it ain`t gonna be pretty.
1 posted on 12/03/2007 5:56:49 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

And the Dems haven’t even passed their budget yet.


2 posted on 12/03/2007 5:57:36 AM PST by Brilliant
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Remember this: half of every dollar spent in this country goes to an entitlement, be it Socialist Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare or unemployment. That’s $1.5 TRILLION right there, more than double what we spend on defense. Stop those payments and we’re out of debt in 7 years with change to spare.

Are we better off for any of it?? Nope.


3 posted on 12/03/2007 6:04:42 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: chessplayer
someone with a credit card that can barely make the minimum monthly payment

I believe we are borrowing to meet the minimum monthly payment.

4 posted on 12/03/2007 6:07:23 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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Since the gov’t owes ME, i’ll take mine in tens and twenties.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 6:07:40 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Anyone opposing rate cuts is in Hillery's or Rudy's camp)
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To: chessplayer

This kind of like complaining about a $100,000 mortgage when you have an income of $90,000 and your house is worth $300,000.

B4 people go off half cocked about our Debt and who owns it think about the value of the infrastructure the United States of America has. It is worth trillions.

As to who owns our debt; don’t you find it interesting that, just as an example, China would rather purchase US Treasury notes than take their money and invest in their own people! They would rather buy 10 billion in US Treasury notes than build roads, bridges, education, etc in their own country!


8 posted on 12/03/2007 6:12:28 AM PST by HD1200
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In one hour the President should divert all “pork” money to defense/mil/national security!!!
Starting with government...Just imagine the possibilities ;)
10 posted on 12/03/2007 6:19:21 AM PST by Tigen (Live in peace or rest in peace!)
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Social Security and Medicare are part of the $9 trillion national debt. For example, the $2 trillion plus SS Trust Fund is part of the national debt under “Intragovernmental holdings.” The entitlement programs represent an unfunded liability of over $60 trillion.


12 posted on 12/03/2007 6:24:16 AM PST by kabar
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To: chessplayer

You’re right. It’s not going to be pretty. This is one hell of a mess to dump on future generations.


14 posted on 12/03/2007 6:29:01 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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“What’s that mean to you?”

It doesn’t mean anything to me.

1) This report is from CNN. Do I need say more?
2) When has the debt not been too big?
3) When the debt is not increasing too fast, that’s news. Increasing too fast, dog bites man.
4) Raw numbers don’t mean anything. Compare it to GDP. Tell me how that compares to other times in history, other times when we are at war.


15 posted on 12/03/2007 6:34:35 AM PST by live+let_live
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The National debt is shrinking and has been. To ask me to read and believe anything by Corrupt News Network is incredulous. Did they get a quote from a gay honorary general?

LLS

18 posted on 12/03/2007 6:40:24 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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The debt is rising faster than the reported deficit because of the government "fund" accounting trickery. The government needs to take the following actions:

Split the government budget into true funds- disclose the numbers to the public using Generally Accepted Government accounting principals (like all the states):

Ban federal funds from buying treasuries. Limit the amount of private investment. Investment board nonpolitical.

The general fund needs to be balanced;

* Stop paying interest payments on treasuries held by federal funds, this would eliminate the general deficit by approximately 40%;

* Federal government out of the secondary education and welfare business- move to the states.

Privatize over time social security. SSA will forgive any bonds it holds after private system is solvent;

Stop paying interest payments on treasuries held by federal funds;

Use true "manciple" bond systems for other federal funds like transportation, airports, etc.

21 posted on 12/03/2007 6:46:34 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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Both of our political parties have sided with the enemy (us) on this one. Our banking system trembles over a mere 400-500 Billion in bad mortgage loans. What a joke. A mere bag of shells.

In addition to what is mentioned below, we currently have about $50 Trillion (1 trillion= 1,000 billions) in unfunded, mandates off the books. As Everitt Dirksen used to say, a billion here, a billion there, soon you talking about real money. If you are actually paying taxes your individual DEBT is closer to $400K in the form of a sub-prime, interest only, balloon loan, with a reverse amortising principal amount.


23 posted on 12/03/2007 7:12:43 AM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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"It's expanding by about $1.4 billion a day ..."

State & Federal spends over $1.8 billion per day on welfare. Drop welfare and the problem is solved.

27 posted on 12/03/2007 7:29:28 AM PST by avacado
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Why the heck don't they just raise taxes to pay down the debt? I mean, with all the super-rich people and bloated corporations in this country, there's no reason for the government to be in debt!

< /dippy liberal, university-student mentality>
28 posted on 12/03/2007 7:32:12 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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“It is increasingly clear by now that a severe U.S. recession is inevitable in next few months...I now see the risk of a severe and worsening liquidity and credit crunch leading to a generalized meltdown of the financial system of a severity and magnitude like we have never observed before. In this extreme scenario whose likelihood is increasing we could see a generalized run on some banks; and runs on a couple of weaker (non-bank) broker dealers that may go bankrupt with severe and systemic ripple effects on a mass of highly leveraged derivative instruments that will lead to a seizure of the derivatives markets... massive losses on money market funds with a run on both those sponsored by banks and those not sponsored by banks; ..ever growing defaults and losses ($500 billion plus) in subprime, near prime and prime mortgages with severe knock-on effect on the RMBS and CDOs market; massive losses in consumer credit (auto loans, credit cards); severe problems and losses in commercial real estate...; the drying up of liquidity and credit in a variety of asset backed securities putting the entire model of securitization at risk; runs on hedge funds and other financial institutions that do not have access to the Fed’s lender of last resort support; a sharp increase in corporate defaults and credit spreads; and a massive process of re-intermediation into the banking system of activities that were until now altogether securitized.” (Nouriel Roubini’s Global EconoMonitor)-—Roubini is a Professor at the Stern School of Business at New York University.


30 posted on 12/03/2007 7:46:49 AM PST by HockeyPop
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Let’s all declare national bankruptcy and start over.

There are a lot of companies out there who are willing to give new credit to reestablish our worth.


32 posted on 12/03/2007 8:16:55 AM PST by wildbill
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