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1 posted on 12/02/2007 9:28:02 AM PST by Graybeard58
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ideological purity? from who? rudy? romney?


2 posted on 12/02/2007 9:30:00 AM PST by ari-freedom (Any theory can appear to explain facts if the theory has enough variables.)
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With Hunter and Thompson we have solid real conservatives. No need to settle with less... in other words RINOs.


3 posted on 12/02/2007 9:31:37 AM PST by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: Graybeard58

What will the 100%’ers say about this piece


4 posted on 12/02/2007 9:33:00 AM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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This guy has zero for understanding of Reagan’s record or his history. Who the hell is this idiot?


7 posted on 12/02/2007 9:34:34 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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This guy’s leaving out some big parts of the compromises Reagan had to make to get some legislation passed. For example, the Reagan tax increases were part of agreements with a democRAT congress to lower spending, which the rats never did. The immigration amnesty was part of an agreement to add enforcement to the borders, which the rats never did, etc.


8 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:24 AM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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> “A successful political movement accepts converts. “ - Grover Norquist

Yeah, Grover, but the key thing is: is the conversion real or has it been trotted out recently to win a primary?

As an example, Reagan’s journey to pro-life was in no way like Mitt’s all too slick “conversion”. Read this:
http://www.redstatenetwork.com/blogs/mark_kilmer/2007/aug/12/the_awful_thing_romney_said_today_about_ronald_reagan


9 posted on 12/02/2007 9:40:41 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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What moron wrote this piece of crap?


10 posted on 12/02/2007 9:42:06 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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I say today’s repubbies are more to the center as time goes by. Us conservatives are a dying breed.

I also say today’s dims are so far off the left, that the dem’s of the 60’s look more like repubbies today.

Sad.


12 posted on 12/02/2007 9:45:29 AM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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I remember well the outright disdain that many conservatives had for Reagan.

Had he not appealed to Democrats, (Reagan Democrats), he would not have been elected. It was crossover voting that elected Reagan, and also helped propel him to two terms.

Rhetoric aside, Reagan had a lot of moderate support as he was a moderate. He was closer to Rudy then he was Fred.

Today's Conservatives use old Reagan quotes to create a personality that never really existed. It's unfortunate for the truth, that each and every time we try to point this fact out we get blasted by people who have created a false perception and now believe it.

Reagan's popularity should be a clue as to his politics, but this is ignored by those who are hurting the party, leading the right wing off a cliff and guaranteeing the Democrat party a win by our default and not true democrat support.

14 posted on 12/02/2007 9:46:05 AM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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ping


15 posted on 12/02/2007 9:47:28 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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GOOOOO RUDY!!!!!!!!!

(sarcasm)


18 posted on 12/02/2007 9:48:32 AM PST by Grunthor (The Clintons need to be reminded that Satan will show them no gratitude for all the things they did)
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Modern day Republicans/Conservatives might elect RWR today, but he would be bloodied to a pulp, and close to inhuman, as our Pres and VP are today, and our candidates are on the same trajectory.

Since our talents only extend to self-flagellation at this point in our political history.

Down the road a bit, we will learn how to defeat the UnAmerican Democrat Party and their media, for the WH and Congress, but for now, destroying "traitors" in the Republican coalition is our political porn, its addicting.

19 posted on 12/02/2007 9:48:39 AM PST by roses of sharon
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Hmmmm ..?? Maybe “Republicans” wouldn’t .. BUT CONSERVATIVES WOULD.

I wish people would realize that being a repub does not make you a CONSERVATIVE.

As a “conservative” I’m unfortunately required to vote Republican .. because voting for any democrat is suicide.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 9:50:20 AM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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Abortion? He was for abortion rights before he was against them.

As a general rule, I don't read the article if the first or second sentence is a blatant lie.

Needless to say, I did not finish the article.

26 posted on 12/02/2007 9:54:16 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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Reagan did have to compromise on somethings but it is without a doubt that he was ardently pro-life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHY4482EP9Q

He did not just profess a quiet shift to support Pro-Life causes he became a premier spokeperson for the effort.

Reagan also successfully slashed the capital gains tax to 20%.

Reagan may have entered into diplomatic relations with the Evil Empire but he did not purse his lips in his condemnation of it. He was not looking to lead the world to war he was starring the enemy in the face steadfast and sending a clear message that he would not capitulate to their propaganda.

The difference between Reagan and the current crop of wantabees is they don’t seem to have a consistent or inspiring message. They seem cowed as if they are holding a baby with a stinking diaper when talking about abortion. They don’t seem to be able to imagine the horror of killing the unborn that should be present in any human being with any sense of humanity within them. They dance gingerly around the sex activists afraid of being called bigots and give lip service to those who would send our economy into oblivion in search of a solution to global warming to please a mythological consensus of misanthropic doogooders and bureaucrat scientists looking for government grants.

Reagan may have compromised on some issues but the one place he never did was in his heart. He knew what he believed in and he believe in the rightness of America and its continued strength in the world.

I hope personally that Fred Thompson will rise in strength of voice because though he be not Reagan he is of the same stripe. He knows how to talk from the heart and to the place in the chest of the common man which calls them to be uncommon men. That is what a leader does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8_G-mlKxTY


27 posted on 12/02/2007 9:55:46 AM PST by Maelstorm (Stupidty disguised as feelings is not an excuse for bad behavior.)
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Reagan's Cold War strategy: We win they lose.

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

Reagan took stands that no one else would take. Most Republicans were happy to coexist with the Soviets and make big money in the defense industry. Reagan had the guts to use our military to advance American interests while the media was still obsessing over Vietnam. And biggest of all, Reagan took a severely wounded America after Carter nearly destroyed it, and made it great again.

It's people like the author who don't remember the real Reagan.

28 posted on 12/02/2007 9:56:25 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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When you read through all of this, liberals are jealous because Republicans have actual choices this election cycle, while the Democrats are working on providing Hillary Clinton with her Bob Dole nomination - it's her turn, so let's get it over with.

28 years is a long time ago, and putting President Reagan's positions and accomplishments in the context of today's political situation is a form of science fiction that is hard to accomplish. It's the entire person, not the individual pieces.

29 posted on 12/02/2007 9:56:59 AM PST by Bernard ("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
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Indeed, Reagan did sign a billion-dollar tax increase while he was governor in 1967. As president, he also signed several tax increases that offset some of his historic 1981 cut in federal income taxes.

This is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.

The total tax dollar amount of Reagan's tax cuts far out-weighed the total tax dollar amount of all the tax-hikes that Reagan signed.

Huckabee, on the other hand, cannot say the same thing as his tax hike total dollar amount outweighed his tax-cut total dollar amount by 500 million dollars.


34 posted on 12/02/2007 10:01:46 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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B.S.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 10:01:58 AM PST by penowa
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It often forgotten Reagan changed his views. If we demand people who never change their views, heck we wouldn't welcome Ronald Reagan today. He's not "pure enough" to be an authentic conservative.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

37 posted on 12/02/2007 10:02:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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