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Posted on 12/02/2007 1:00:24 AM PST by elhombrelibre
The GOP presidential candidate says U.S. sovereignty is at risk. Highway and trade officials and transportation consultants say there are no plans for such a project.
WASHINGTON -- The man from Arlington, Texas, could barely contain his smirk as he looked into a computer video camera to pose a question of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
>When did big government become a plank of the Republican platform? Was it when there ceased to be a functional difference between Demicans and Republicrats?<
The Democratic and Republican Parties have become merely opposite wings of the same bird, and it’s the American people who are getting the bird as our elected officials serve their corporate masters and the special interest groups that dominate both parties.
Lou Dobbs
>Look at the structure, the manipulation... Have you noticed that the “golden child” shift has nearly perfectly gone from the least conservative incrementally toward the right... Each consecutively becoming the foil to keep the interest off the true conservative...<
I think they are finding the Internet to be very frustrating. It’s not easy to control the people when you no longer control the paths for information.
LOL... good one FRiend :)
How about the independent owner operators?
Sort of like saying the burglar only broke into the front room of the house and didn’t go into the other rooms.
BFD.
>> Run Paul is saving the constitution and our Republic from a non-existent road,
It’s really about of sovereignty, security, and adherence to the Constitution. Because something is unplanned doesn’t mean there’s no initiative to create it. Many people dismissed the warnings about terrorists flying planes into tall buildings in NYC; yet, it happened.
The authors of The Federalist seem to have been unaware of their fallaciousness.
It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force. If there be any truth in the remark, the crisis at which we are arrived may with propriety be regarded as the era in which that decision is to be made; and a wrong election of the part we shall act may, in this view, deserve to be considered as the general misfortune of mankind.
This idea will add the inducements of philanthropy to those of patriotism, to heighten the solicitude which all considerate and good men must feel for the event. Happy will it be if our choice should be directed by a judicious estimate of our true interests, unperplexed and unbiased by considerations not connected with the public good. But this is a thing more ardently to be wished than seriously to be expected. The plan offered to our deliberations affects too many particular interests, innovates upon too many local institutions, not to involve in its discussion a variety of objects foreign to its merits, and of views, passions and prejudices little favorable to the discovery of truth.
Among the most formidable of the obstacles which the new Constitution will have to encounter may readily be distinguished the obvious interest of a certain class of men in every State to resist all changes which may hazard a diminution of the power, emolument, and consequence of the offices they hold under the State establishments; and the perverted ambition of another class of men, who will either hope to aggrandize themselves by the confusions of their country, or will flatter themselves with fairer prospects of elevation from the subdivision of the empire into several partial confederacies than from its union under one government.
--"Publius" [Hamilton], Federalist No. 1, Oct. 1787 (Emphasis added)
I could go on, but the idea is clearly there, of political action for the benefit of the whole society, and I cite Federalist No. 1 to show that Hamilton's thought is there at the outset, springing from his brow as his first consideration.
That Hamilton had other interests and motivations for bringing forth the Constitution is well-documented. He was an attorney and businessman; a modern bank proudly claims him as its founder. He was also the doyen of New York business attorneys, a class which has, on behalf of its Old Money clients, dominated the Republican Party for well over a century and a half, ever since it nominated Abraham Lincoln, a railroad and patent attorney, for the presidency of the United States. Nevertheless, it is to this "wholist" concept of a salutary foundation of government in principle rather than in interests or combinations, that he appeals to his countrymen for the ratification of the Constitution he and the other delegates to the Philadelphia Convention had put forward.
Them, too. Very much so. I think the people pushing NAFTA want truck drivers to accept Mexican wages and learn to live six families to a trailer-house, or two families to a cement shack, so that America can be "great" again -- as in the Gilded Age, before labor unions screwed things up by requiring the Interests to spread some of the success around, to include those people who only did the work.
Well it will be real when Hucklebee, Thompson, or St. Rudy of 9/11 bring it up. Until then it's not according to 'conservatives'. If Dr. Paul brings it up (and he will considering he's the only one that bothers with data and actual news) it's imaginary. See how it works?
Good except insofar as it is demonstrably not true, at least in part.
The road project does exist, it is being planned, and at least two well-funded committees of the Congress sit and deliberate on its evolution and development.
The construction of the Alliance project associated with the NASCO superhighway project, I have seen myself. It is huge, large enough to be visible from outer space.
Mexican dispatchers are just as ruthless in scheduling drivers' deliveries. Maybe moreso. At least, according to TV newsies and article writers who've actually talked to Mexican drivers to see what their deal is.
What makes you think Mexican drivers have fewer drug problems? Or drink less?
Or is your idea of a man's virtue tied to the smallness of his paycheck? "Cheap for me is good for thee"?
...and thank God (and Al Gore /sarc) for that. Even FOX News... It has never really been Conservative... As w/ Hannity, just a tool for the big business wing :(
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Benton noted that Rep. Virgil H. Goode Jr. (R-Va.) had introduced a resolution expressing opposition to a NAFTA superhighway. It is signed by 42 congressmen, including Paul and two of his Republican presidential rivals, Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado.
In Texas, Benton added, legislators voted to withhold funding from the project linking Mexico to Oklahoma, known as the Trans-Texas Corridor, despite Gov. Rick Perry's support. But with much of the $1-billion project expected to be defrayed by private developers, the effort is moving forward, said Coby Chase of the Texas Department of Transportation. (Emphasis added)
The "Trans-Texas Corridor" (hereafter "TTC") doesn't just stop at the Oklahoma and Louisiana state lines. The continuation of these new private toll roads is the NASCO project, whose spokesflack the LAT smear artist managed to quote without wondering why her job exists.
I don't like Ron Paul's politics all that much either, but on this issue he happens to be right.
So why are so many posters on FR sneering at him and imputing tinfoil enthusiasms to people who know about this project and object to it?
I see discussion on this thread the the NAFTA Hwy is/is not for rea, that Paul is against it, there is not funding, etc.
My question is why did Paul EARMARK $13,000,000 for it if it isn’t real and he’s against it?
Ron Paul’s BACKDOOR EARMARK
*#20. $13 million for I-69 highway project, is the Trans-Texas corridor project that many claim is the first leg of the NAU, NAFTA Superhighway.
http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/projects/i69/
“Interstate 69 is a planned 1,600-mile national highway connecting Mexico, the United States and Canada. Eight states are involved in the project. In Texas, I-69 will be developed under the Trans-Texas Corridor master plan.”
My question is why did Paul EARMARK $13,000,000 for it if it isn’t real and he’s against it?
Ron Paul’s BACKDOOR EARMARK
*#20. $13 million for I-69 highway project, is the Trans-Texas corridor project that many claim is the first leg of the NAU, NAFTA Superhighway.
http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/projects/i69/
“Interstate 69 is a planned 1,600-mile national highway connecting Mexico, the United States and Canada. Eight states are involved in the project. In Texas, I-69 will be developed under the Trans-Texas Corridor master plan.”
Oops - in the rush to tar Ron Paul, you tromped on the truth. Why do the clumsier, more zealous members the anti-Ron Paul brigade sometimes remind me of Laurel and Hardy in "Air Raid Wardens"?
I think some folks use Ron Paul as a starting point for trying to mock a lot of traditionally conservatives ideas. I have seen it often - it slides from "let's laugh at Ron Paul" to "let's mock as 'unrealisitc' the idea that restraining BigGov is possible or even desirable." The rhetoric leans towards "let's not try to do too much at once," and so on. The latter resemble the sibilant whispering of Tokyo Rose, and I have seen a few of them here at FR.
The tipping point comes when deciding what to mock him about. "Heh, look what the nut said now... oh wait, it's legit."
I'm probably not going to vote for RP in the primaries, but I want to see the idea of smaller, less intrusive government revered in the Republican Party.
Got a link to the earmark? I suspect he may have had some interest given the traffic problems in his home district around Houston, but it’d be nice to read the text of the funding request.
The problem with conspiracy theories, at least those that have some sort of validation, is that those who are
implimenting them are often unaware they are doing so:
FYI:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/conspiracy_theorists.htm
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