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Paul believes in threat of North American superhighway
LA TIMES ^ | 30 Nov 07 | Stephen Braun

Posted on 12/02/2007 1:00:24 AM PST by elhombrelibre

The GOP presidential candidate says U.S. sovereignty is at risk. Highway and trade officials and transportation consultants say there are no plans for such a project.

WASHINGTON -- The man from Arlington, Texas, could barely contain his smirk as he looked into a computer video camera to pose a question of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: cuespookymusic; moosetacos; naftahighway; nau; rino; ronpaul; tinfoil
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To: ovrtaxt

Yup- in fact, did you notice that CNN edited out the gay military guy and Hunter’s awesome response? If you watch the archived debate, IT AIN’T THERE.

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No, didn’t know that.


121 posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:34 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
As someone who is interested in learning about this, both sides, do you have any supporting documentation one way or the other?

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Start here...

http://www.canadians.org/water/documents/NA_Future_2025.pdf

The do a google on NAU and SPP. Or you could question the number of connecting toll roads around the country in various states that are now owned and run by foreign corporations.

Bottom line...there's a lot going on and one has to question the motives of those who insist otherwise.

122 posted on 12/02/2007 5:29:59 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: lentulusgracchus

http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/integ/corridors.asp


123 posted on 12/02/2007 5:30:23 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: All

“...A 200-foot Utility Zone for large underground water lines, natural gas and petroleum pipelines, telecommunication cables, fiberoptics and overhead high-voltage electric transmission..”

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OK. C’mon people.

Nobody is going to put all of those utilities along 1 road because it is not the shortest distance between 2 points.

Petroleum pipes are between gas stations and oil refineries. Natural gas lines too. Electrical lines are between power plants and population centers. Telecom cables are between cities.

THE ONLY CONSPIRACY there is, is to put Americans out of work so greedy treacherous SOBs can make a buck off your stupid slave ass.


124 posted on 12/02/2007 5:30:26 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: borntobeagle
Thank you for your post, and for the utterly damning quotation from "Toll Road Ric" Williamson, about removing an entire area of government from the requirement of consent of the governed.

That said, Ric and Rick are only tools. Who are the men who bought and paid for them?

We know at least one of the principals behind CINTRA, and he is very much a "principal" in every sense of the word. He is His Most Catholic Majesty, King Juan Carlos Borbon y Borbon, the King of Spain.

Looks like he wants Texas back. And Mexico too, for that matter.

125 posted on 12/02/2007 5:30:33 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Cvengr
Thank you.
126 posted on 12/02/2007 5:31:23 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: elhombrelibre; Ragnar704
Maybe someone should introduce legislation against Martian body-snatching and see who all co-signs it.

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Whatever credibility you might have had disappeared with this childish post.

127 posted on 12/02/2007 5:33:12 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Hunterite

The super highways tend to become the shortest path between two points because that is the flow of the economy in material goods. Just look at the number of ghost towns and abandoned businesses in middle America whenever the interstate replaced state highways as the major thoroughfare.


128 posted on 12/02/2007 5:34:21 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The issue tends to bolster the perceived rants of Illuminati conspiracy theorists. CFR and one world order thinkers have long promoted “regionalization”, with Canada, the US and Mexico forming the majority of this region. The intent is to remove national sovereignty and promote one international government.

If the UN and League of Nations were so great, then this new trend (about 50 years old) is just swell. /sarc


129 posted on 12/02/2007 5:37:30 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; All

I especially like Gov Rick Perry’s site and “defense” of the TTC’s effect on Texas Citizens.

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/priorities/transportation/ttc_factsheet/view


130 posted on 12/02/2007 5:43:04 AM PST by borntobeagle (Good fences make good neighbors------R. Frost)
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To: Cvengr
The issue tends to bolster the perceived rants of Illuminati conspiracy theorists.

I see that. It turns out the guys in the twisted tinfoil hats just might have a point after all...

131 posted on 12/02/2007 5:43:50 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: rineaux; roamer_1; Ragnar704; antinomian
The spanish company is Cintras. Giuliani's company represents their interests.

Cintras is buying the rights to toll roads from Texas to Indiana and investing in linking them up and expanding their capabilities.

The states are selling their own sovreignty over these arteries for short-term, budget-balancing reasons and in the process handing the next century of toll revenues (and control of use) to Spain.

132 posted on 12/02/2007 5:47:54 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Cvengr

“The intent is to remove national sovereignty and promote one international government.”

Well, why else would one think Bush has been so friendly with Mexico all these years?


133 posted on 12/02/2007 5:49:49 AM PST by borntobeagle (Good fences make good neighbors------R. Frost)
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To: ovrtaxt

I don’t see it that way. Conspiracy theories aside having a highway for truck and bus traffic that steers them around cities would relieve some of the traffic in the downtown areas and help those commuters. Being a toll road would mean those businesses using it would be paying for it instead of taxpayers. Another good thing for taxpayers. Nafta has been passed we either have to resend it or make it work for us. I recall that part of the argument against it was the dangerous Mexican truck causing all sorts of carnage and that has not happened so far.


134 posted on 12/02/2007 5:51:53 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: wtc911

Toll roads = evil = inneficiency. Which is why Libertarians love them (private roads).


135 posted on 12/02/2007 5:54:03 AM PST by Hunterite
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To: ontap
Having a highway going from the southern border to the northern border would be a good thing IMHO. Illegal immigration is a failure to enforce our laws having a highway would not affect it one way or another, I we seal the borders where they’re coming across they won’t have chance to use any of our highways.

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If that were the full story I would agree. But, the plans all call for the highway starting in Guadalajara where containers from the PacRim would be loaded onto rigs driven by Mexicans and pushed across our border uninspected by US Customs until they reach an "in-land port" which could be 1,000 miles north of the border.

There has been millions spent on the research and development by NGOs and Corporate Entities here, in Canada, Mexico and the EU.

136 posted on 12/02/2007 5:55:14 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

www.corridorwatch.org

For more info


137 posted on 12/02/2007 5:57:28 AM PST by borntobeagle (Good fences make good neighbors------R. Frost)
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To: elhombrelibre

Well paul is right about a few things....

Believe me NAFTA and the “Road” are not figments of imagination/

No its not funded by America....have you noticed who is REALLY Funding the road?????

I’ve done the research....have you?


138 posted on 12/02/2007 5:58:01 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Hunterite
It makes a huge difference. A free trade agreement requires nothing more than all the involved parties agreeing to drop their tariffs against one another. NAFTA (as well as CAFTA) are full of quotas and special protections for certain industries. My own RINO Senator was quoted saying of CAFTA, “This is a five year insurance policy I have purchased for my sugar beet farmers.” Free trade? I don’t think so.

It sounds to me like you’re against REAL free trade too, but I felt it was necessary to clarify the difference. I’ve learned from experience not to argue with a protectionist on this forum, so we’ll just agree to disagree there for now.

139 posted on 12/02/2007 5:58:41 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: wtc911

Where do you get those plans?


140 posted on 12/02/2007 6:00:23 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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