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To: Virginia-American

More importantly, he first needs to prove that coral respond to LPS like humans do. He seized onto one sentence in a popular news outlet story and extrapolated from there to the baseless conclusion that corals must respond to endotoxin in the same way as humans, and that fish do not. Since coral haven’t got TLR-4, this is pretty much impossible. Even if they did have TLR-4 it wouldn’t help him because fish have that as well as humans, again consistent with evolutionary theory.

Basically he’s thrashing about like a patient in electroconvulsive therapy where the nurse forgot to administer the paralytic agent. Ouch.


351 posted on 12/07/2007 2:47:08 PM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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Basically he’s thrashing about like a patient in electroconvulsive therapy where the nurse forgot to administer the paralytic agent. Ouch.

This exchange (I can't call it a debate) has been amusing to watch.

What is most amusing is that a layman could think he could take a single line out of an article and disprove all of the world's libraries full of information corroborating the theory of evolution.

As if all the world's scientists had just overlooked that one little piece of information. Or as if there was some vast conspiracy to hide that information.

I think what you are seeing is the effects of extremist beliefs in action.

This exchange reminds me of Baghdad Bob, standing on the balcony talking to reporters and denying that there were Americans in Iraq--while ducking the incoming bullets.

352 posted on 12/07/2007 4:53:08 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: ahayes
" Even if they did have TLR-4 it wouldn’t help him because fish have that as well as humans, again consistent with evolutionary theory." - ahayes

Nope. Not consistent with Evolutionary Theory.

Oh sure, Fish have TLR-4, but it does something enormously different in Fish than in humans (or than what TLR does in Coral for that matter).

And rest assured that there is no published version of Evolutionary Theory that explains why TLR-4 should perform endotoxin recognition in some species but not in others.

< cue sounds of desperate Darwinists typing that there are Evolutionary explanations, just none published and linkable and that specific >

354 posted on 12/07/2007 7:52:06 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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