Posted on 11/29/2007 6:38:28 AM PST by Sopater
Silly me. I thought it was illegal. So the cops are supposed to just ignore some things? I thought we wanted cops to follow the law.
“If you knew how many cops were killed each year after being shot or stabbed after a simple traffic stop, maybe you would be a little more understanding if a cop asks you if he can take a look inside your vehicle.”
As a lawyer, you are exempt from most of the absues visited upon the rest of Americans. You are, when all is said and done, an “Officer of the Courts”, ‘member? The cop sure does.
The nice ossifer won’t plant drugs in your car, either.
All in all, there are reasons Americans fear cops.
Is this good - claerly not. Can a Republic long endure when its citizens do not respect the law and the court system? Probably not.
But, a case can be made that all too many want to move towards an even more socialized police state than we now have.
Read my earlier posts. I’m totally against unlawful searches, but sprinkling pepper in your car deliberately to jam a dog’s sense of smell, if it can be proven to have been deliberate, is a crime. If they find contraband in your car, don’t expect much leniency or anyone to believe it was accidental.
I see you are dangling for Rb ver. 2.0’s approval; it’s heartwarming to witness these Libertarian love-fests. Ahem, rights afforded by our “Constitution” (I much prefer that to COTUS as it is far less pretentious and doesn’t sound like a sex act) are not, nor were they intended to be, absolute. It is the likes of the ACLU and the Libertarians that have extended them into the realm of the absurd. Vile pornography, flag burning, abortion, what one does in one’s apare time with a dildo are just a few of the few things that come to mind. A moral, law-respecting state driven by CHRISTIAN values is what the framers had in mind, like it or not. Using the document to shield criminals, perverts and seditionists is the ultimate perversion and it will ultimately take us down.
I don’t give a rat’s hairy ass what RBV2 or anyone else thinks, per se. I was trying to be polite because he was part of the conversation you all were having.
I like COTUS for the convenience, but I think writing it out is more respectful, so that’s what I usually do, myself.
I agree that some things the Constitution has been deemed to allow or to protect are in fact incorrect (see Raich, Kelo, Eliot, etc.), but it seemed to me you were saying that since abortion is protected by the Constitution (I don’t believe it is, RvW or not), that we should look askance at stuff that really IS in there. You said “By the way, how can you you deem Constitutional rights so sacrosant when Abortion on Demand has been given such status?”
If I had a cop for a brother-in-law, I would never speak to my sister again.
Its not pleasant watching a liberetarian quaking with fear and I recently had the carpet cleaned.
Libertarians don't quake with fear, they create fear among government addicts and control freaks.
Ron Paul is never going to be nominated, much less elected.
Ron Paul is elected. He may never be elected to any office other than Congressman from Texas, but elected he is, nonetheless.
A Christian will render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and recognize that what is not his, he has to claim to. This is about what is and isn't Caesar's, not who is an isn't a Christian.
“Could I bother you for a slightly larger small smackerel of .308?” < /Pooh voice >
Not “quake with fear”? Seems to me that a cop-hater like yourself would wet his pants if he saw a police cruiser on his tail. And (duh) Paul is campaigning for president now, as we type, not for reelection to Congress. That, and being the current pivot man in the Libertarian Circle Jerk, must be consuming all his time.
Top Ten List of Actions Libertarians Can Take “For the Principle Of the Thing”:
10. Decorate large marijuana plant instead of Christmas Tree.
9. Use leaded gasoline for one’s next flag burning.
8. Let one’s 12 year old drive by himself in the carpool lane.
7. Place neon sign in front window: “Cop Free Zone”.
6. Rename pit bull “Ron Paul”.
5. Carry one’s gold-inlaid, commemorative Tech 9 to next Presidential debate.
4. Weld one’s trunk and glove box shut.
3. Remove seat belts from car.
2. Vote in the nude.
1. Join NAMBLA.
One thing they won’t do is go crying to Congress for a federal law that makes it illegal for you to hate them.
I don’t hate them, I just feel sorry for then as I do any other benighted and misguided group of malcontents. I reserve my hatred for the secular progressives whom the Libertarians unwittingly abet at every juncture (e.g. the witheringly horrible idea of running Ron Paul as a third-party candidate.)
Maybe, maybe not. See post 206. You seem concerned that people aren't seeing things from the LEO's point of view. If I'm not mistaken, the police consider someone making seemingly contradictory statements reasonable cause for suspicion.
I don’t see your point. Giving seemingly contradictory statements is a well-recognized cause for suspicion. Give me a “fer instance”. Oh yeah, I know some police officers are LEOs, but my brother-in-law is an AQUARIUS.
You’ve made seemingly contradictory statement, so now I’m suspicious. You’ve also refused to respond to a direct question. I don’t see that as being any less suspicious than refusing to consent to a search, which also makes me suspicious. At this point I really don’t have much reason to believe anything you say, and probable cause to disbelieve it.
See you on the battlefield.
Nice segue.
Thank you, it was nice transition wasn’t it? Kudos for being a nimble opponent with a sense of humor. God bless and Merry Christmas.
bttt
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