Fox News Just Claims Fred Thompson Hit Illegal Immigration Question Out of the Park!

FoxNews ^ | 29 Nov 07 | FoxNews

[xzins]

They showed the response to Thompson's answer and the expert said that it was as close to PERFECT as he's ever seen!

Thompson said that we should ENFORCE enforce our borders.

And Fox says that Thompson is on the side of America on this issue

[dit_xi]

Thanks for the info. I just had to smack her down with the truth.

[pissant]

But hey, she and Liberal congressman Brad Miller know so much more about what is important for the military to fund.

Must be Miller’s stints at blogging on the DailyKos that made this Kucinich wannabee such an expert.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I have always supported Fred from the start, but, to be honest had moments of doubt.
It looks like Ruty and Romney both hurt each other last night and hurt themselves by some of their answers and they way they acted,,,, I hope Fred is the beneficiary of those who are taking a 2nd look at Ruty&Romney in their doubts and give Fred a chance.

[lentulusgracchus]

In fact I was bothered by the fact that all 8 were are not aloud to give their answer to many of these questions.

I didn't get to see the debate since I don't have cable..... did the CNN crew steer the debate away from some candidates?

Also, what was the deal about the Confederate flag? That's a New York Times/NAACP bloody-shirt, get-out-the-black-vote pseudo-issue that the NYT started bringing up in 1991 to split the conservative vote and drive Midwestern voters away from Southern conservatives by making up all the usual Hitchcockian stereotypical slurs about Southerners (inbred, slack-jawed, snaggle-toothed scarecrow-men in baggy work pants and sweat-stained, beaten-up fedoras, whose wet dream of a Saturday night is to hang Negroes from trees and set them on fire).

[lentulusgracchus]

Isn't the canton the quartered device which, on the United States flag, is typically referred to as the "union"?

In the Second and Third Confederate National flags, the white part is, I thought, called "the field".

There are also other Confederate flags you could have put up......a battle flag with the colors reversed and white fimbrations omitted, which was used in the Trans-Mississippi Department, another battle flag (Granger's) with a big white star at the crux (and no white fimbrations again), also used west of the Mississippi, a Missouri battle flag featuring a Latin cross, Van Dorn's starry red flag, and Gen. Polk's battle flag, which looked like the Icelandic flag, but with a properly proportioned Cross of St. George in red on a dark blue field, with white fimbrations and 11 white stars on the arms of the cross. (Polk's first flag had a sky-blue field, no white fimbrations to the Cross of St. George, and large stars.)

[Yaelle]

"Aw, come on, everyone knows you need fire in your belly to be President. Ah tell you, every DAY in that White House I could feel something burning right about here... Well, it's kinda the LOWER belly..."

[lentulusgracchus]

Amazing how effective the media has been in putting that in society's collective heads.

A dozen years ago, Jonathan Alter listed in one of his weekly newsrag essays all the campaigns he and his press buddies were running. There were 12-14 of them or more (I forget the number), and the burden of Alter's argument was a plea to his co-conspirators for issue rationing. To be effective with their brainwashing, he pointed out, the press had to limit the number of issues they campaigned on.

Among the 90's list: Smoking (or rather, anti-smoking), homosexuality (pro-homosexuality), environmentalism, and abortion.

A key to understanding of press campaigns is that they are cooperative, collaborative exercises in propagandization, and rely on the same techniques Goebbels used in the 1920's and 30's: relentless repetition, demonization of opponents (arguments ad hominem, liberally applied), and demagoguery (argument in the face of facts) where necessary.

Alter's point was that proliferation of campaign issues would lead to loss of focus and loss of traction among the lumpenproletariat -- that is, the Free People of the United States, whom Alter and stooges regard as chumps, marks, and rubes.

[Hunterite]

one things for sure. This is going to be an entertaining primary.

[lentulusgracchus]

You all are like hillary in the way you use plants.

Hillary planted one with the "retired colonel" who asked about gays in the military.

A story in the Thursday Houston Chronicle written by a Chicago Trib writer scrupulously identified the "retired colonel" as a plant. The guy was a "GLBT's for Hillary" volunteer in her campaign.

I think we ought to be grateful to any ink-stained wretch who clues us in to that stuff -- a lot of political writers wouldn't have let us in on that one.

[lentulusgracchus]

With me was a bigwig in the NC state Democratic party machine. ...He said that Huckabee and McCain would be the easiest to beat, Rudy and Mitt would make a tight race, but that Fred simply looked like the POTUS. ... FWIW

Thanks, that's worth a lot! Made my day.....

A bigwig with ACU was on one of the talk-radio shows Thursday night, and he was pitching Romney. Said Fred had "imploded" but Mitt was a uniter. Spin, spin, spin.......he was straight enough to say that he was speaking for himself only, not for ACU.

[counterpunch]

Bob Dole was a WWII hero, and had quite a career in the Senate himself, you may recall. He was a Vice Presidential candidate, too. And Bob Dole was younger than Fred Thompson when he ran for President.

Anyways, we’re not talking about a resume here. We’re talking about style, “taking the fight to the enemy.” Bob Dole didn’t, and Fred has yet to show he can roll up his sleeves and rumble with the big boys. The concern is that the Clinton smear machine will tar and feather him before he even finishes drawling one of his folksy southern sayings. My whole point here is that Thompson was on top of the race, and now he’s down at the bottom of the front runners, all because GOP voters have doubts that Thompson has “fire in the belly”, as they say. I didn’t buy into that at first, but after seeing his performance after he actually entered the race, I know exactly what they’re talking about. Fred needs to do something dramatic to prove he has what it takes, the way Ronald Reagan did when people had the same sort of doubts about him.

[wtc911]

Yep, really crossing the fingers about FDT.

I heard somebody mention a Guiliani/Huckabee ticket as a winner. It has the traditional Northeast/BibleBelt winning combo and would beat anything the dims would float. It could be a genuine 'hold your nose and pull the lever' election.

[NavyCanDo]

Allot of people didn’t catch this, but Cooper called the Confederate Battle Flag the Stars And Bars, which it is not.

[xzins]

My whole point here is that Thompson was on top of the race, and now he’s down at the bottom of the front runners, all because GOP voters have doubts that Thompson has “fire in the belly”, as they say.

This was the media's and the political enemies idea of how to deal with Thompson.

They brought it up because he waited until Labor Day to get into the race. Then they slightly adjusted it to "slow" and "no fire" about everything.

Personally, I'm glad he waited. I'm tired of these 4 year long campaigns. I'm tired of the news media annointing candidates on the basis of their desire for a liberal america.

Their major problem with Thompson is his 87% ACU rating. He's a real conservative. We've not had a real conservative head the ticket since Ronald Reagan.

[counterpunch]

I think that’s a bunch of BS. Sticking your head in the sand and blaming the media isn’t going to help anyone, least of all Thompson.
The fact that is plain for all to see is Thompson lacks the passion needed to win the presidential race. I came to this conclusion not because of what his enemies of the media or the Vast Leftwing Conspiracy says, but by what I have personally observed, or more to the point, what I haven’t. I’d like to see him change that. But I’m not going to stick my head in the sand and deny it exists.

[xzins]

I think you’ve swallowed the media’s koolaid and asked for more.

At the same time, I believe Thompson is responsible for how he runs his campaign. I’m not, and neither are you.

At the same time, what is so wrong about my detesting 4 year long campaigns?

Thompson’s slow drawl, sharp responses, and country ways really appeals to me. I’m glad he stood by his decision that politics shouldn’t be a career and got out of the senate after 2 terms as he promised. I’m glad he decided to get into the race because he saw national needs that he wanted to address. I’m glad he isn’t one of our “professional” politicians who are CONTINUALLY campaigning.

I’m glad he’s not a professional politician and is a Washington outsider. I’m glad he’s has an 87% ACU rating and is a real conservative.

[counterpunch]

My god you don’t get it. This isn’t about how long he’s running his campaign, it’s about how he is (or isn’t) since he entered the race. Fred needs to stop clearing his throat and speak already. I don’t listen to what pundits say, but I do listen to what candidates say, and how they say it. I watched the debate. He barely participated. I haven’t heard much of anything from Fred since his big debut, which, by the way, I thought was great. It’s everything that has (or hasn’t) happened since. He has completely disappeared off the radar.

[Honeybunch]

Be a Friend of Fred not because of any entertainment value, or any “shock and awe”. Be a Friend of Fred because he can do the job no one else can, and he’s WILLING to do it. Running for POTUS is not like winning the Kentucky Derby. It’s like doing an Ironman.

[xzins]

My god you don’t get it. This isn’t about how long he’s running his campaign, it’s about how he is (or isn’t) since he entered the race.

First, I am not your god. :>)

Second, I LIKE the way he's running his campaign. He is the only viable conservative and other conservatives will be drawn to his campaign in the next 2 weeks.

Wait and see.