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1 posted on 11/27/2007 6:50:28 AM PST by shrinkermd
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The inevitable result when the government is financing health care. Circumstances change too quickly for a lumbering bureaucracy to keep up.


2 posted on 11/27/2007 6:54:41 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: shrinkermd

Don’t worry. If HillaryCare ever gets into play, you’ll die when HillaryCare decides it’s time, if not before....


3 posted on 11/27/2007 6:56:49 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: shrinkermd

Now will we have a duty to die?


5 posted on 11/27/2007 6:58:16 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: shrinkermd

Hillary has a plan for solving the problem:

SOYLENT GREEN!


6 posted on 11/27/2007 7:00:10 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: shrinkermd

Great news for Dr.’s who specialize in geriatrics though, the money has to go somewhere....


7 posted on 11/27/2007 7:00:36 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: shrinkermd

Sometimes it balances out...my husband was an out-patient for five weeks, then went on hospice and died a week later.


9 posted on 11/27/2007 7:08:54 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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the whole concept of hospice was to remove the patient from a hospital setting to their home to die......AND save the government money in the process. so it didn’t work out that way?


17 posted on 11/27/2007 7:19:09 AM PST by tioga (Dear Santa..........I can explain....)
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To: shrinkermd
Hillary care is basically national euthanasia
18 posted on 11/27/2007 7:28:38 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER:
Here’s one.

CART MASTER:
Ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not dead!
CART MASTER:
What?
CUSTOMER:
Nothing. Here’s your ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not dead!
CART MASTER:
‘Ere. He says he’s not dead!
CUSTOMER:
Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not!
CART MASTER:
He isn’t?
CUSTOMER:
Well, he will be soon. He’s very ill.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m getting better!
CUSTOMER:
No, you’re not. You’ll be stone dead in a moment.
CART MASTER:
Oh, I can’t take him like that. It’s against regulations.
DEAD PERSON:
I don’t want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER:
Oh, don’t be such a baby.
CART MASTER:
I can’t take him.
DEAD PERSON:
I feel fine!
CUSTOMER:
Well, do us a favour.
CART MASTER:
I can’t.
CUSTOMER:
Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won’t be long.
CART MASTER:
No, I’ve got to go to the Robinsons’. They’ve lost nine today.
CUSTOMER:
Well, when’s your next round?
CART MASTER:
Thursday.
DEAD PERSON:
I think I’ll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER:
You’re not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn’t there something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: [singing]
I feel happy. I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER:
Ah, thanks very much.
CART MASTER:
Not at all. See you on Thursday.


19 posted on 11/27/2007 7:32:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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Having put several relatives through hospice care in Branford CT. It was noted to me by the nurses that Yale New Haven Dumps terminal patients on them at the end of every month so their Success or cure rate looks pretty good for the books.

They are a little premature though as some patients end up walking out of there after several weeks.

A side note; I always disliked actor “Rat Boy” Richard Gere until I found out he regularly visits the patients there as he lives on the water within view of the facility


22 posted on 11/27/2007 7:50:49 AM PST by underbyte
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The charges are assessed retrospectively,

The NY Times doesn't know the difference between "retrospectively" and "retroactively?"

48 posted on 11/27/2007 8:44:56 AM PST by HIDEK6
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I think Dr. Kevorkian has just found a new market. “You make lots of money by following my tried and true trade secrets!”


58 posted on 11/27/2007 8:54:32 AM PST by hoppity
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As a physician I can tell you what is happening. People are put on hospice that should not be. They are infecting our Nursing Homes. Why you need hospice in a NH is beyond me. But they have a new diagnosis “Adult Failure to thrive” that qualifies people for hospice. Thesse people just do not eat well and lose weight. There is not way they can say these patients are going to die is 6 months. Many elderly patients eat poorly and live for years. I have been complaining about this.


64 posted on 11/27/2007 9:21:46 AM PST by therut
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Where’s that Richard Lamb “Duty to Die” speech, from the “we care about the little people” party?


65 posted on 11/27/2007 9:25:33 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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The State of PA recently passed a law (many lawyers were opposed to it) that allows nursing homes to go after the children, for debts incurred by the parents that the parents don't pay (for example, if the parent dies virtually penniless).

It is controversial and no-one is sure that it will hold up in court.

70 posted on 11/27/2007 10:01:32 AM PST by ikka
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83 posted on 11/27/2007 10:35:44 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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The cancer patients are living longer because they’re pushing them into hospice early. The answer is “open access” hospice. Some insurance companies have plans that cover it now - open access means doctors have determined you have six months or less to live, but you won’t be denied treatment or the chance to survive.


94 posted on 11/27/2007 11:09:57 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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I gotta say...I’m amazed at some of the vitriol on this thread.

My mother passed away of cancer a few years back, and at the end, we had home hospice care. We had help from about three different hospice nurses, and all of them were wonderful, gentle, caring people. Thanks to them, Mom was as comfortable as was possible at that stage in her illness, she was able to be in familiar surroundings, and her death was peaceful - I’d even say beautiful.

It isn’t easy work, caring for the dying. And I’ll always, always be grateful that they were there to do it.


96 posted on 11/27/2007 11:20:37 AM PST by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton [NaNo Count 50400/50000])
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socialism does not work, socialism does not work, socialism does not work, socialism does not work, socialism does not work, socialism does not work,...


98 posted on 11/27/2007 11:24:38 AM PST by PGalt
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I don't think all Hospices are alike but I am certainly no fan of the one that "helped" my Mother....we kids would do everything for her, which is what we wanted, and their aide would come give Mom a brief bed bath and change the sheets....Mom dreaded her coming....

we liked the social worker/spiritual person.....she actually sang songs for my mom and my dad....they really liked her and she was an inspiration for both my mom and dad, and she promised she would be back....well, she never came back....

she and the chief nurse promised as well to be at the funneral to give support to my father.....of course, neither showed up nor did either ever talk to my dad again, and he really needed the emotional support...

for my mom to lie there for close to 3 months, knowing she was dying, yet still waking up every morning....that must have been so very hard on her...she was the type that would have liked to "get on with it"....

I am rethinking Hospice myself....okay, so let's not do chemo or radiation but can we at least talk HOPEFUL and that Jesus can perform miracles?????<

but to lie down without hope, ever....that is cruel and inhumane....

100 posted on 11/27/2007 11:34:05 AM PST by cherry
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