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Interest in Outdoor Wood Boilers Grows (Nanny State Wants More Control)
Yahoooooo! ^ | November 22, 2007 | Stephanie Reitz

Posted on 11/23/2007 6:18:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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You know, if we all lived in urban settings, trapped like rats in tiny shoe-box-sized apartments where the Elitists could keep track of all of us all, we all walked to work and shopping and we all just huddled together for warmth in leftist orgies every night, this wouldn't be a problem!

*SMIRK*

1 posted on 11/23/2007 6:19:00 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Gabz

A ‘Nanny State Good Morning’ to YOU! :)


2 posted on 11/23/2007 6:19:32 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: IncPen

Damn nanny staters wanting more control


3 posted on 11/23/2007 6:21:01 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

BBQ grills are next.


4 posted on 11/23/2007 6:26:38 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (If piece is the answer, Bill Clinton asked the question.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I've got news for the writers fuel numbers, heating oil is up about 18-20% already this year. I question the legality of passing such a law after the fact. I don't condone suing but I would in this case for damages to recover costs of purchase and installation. Reason being is I would bet this had to be inspected by code enforcement.
5 posted on 11/23/2007 6:27:53 AM PST by Racer1
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To: Nailbiter

“or refuse to “grandfather in” older units if they wish. “
I have a hard time understanding this. I thought that “grandfathering in” was a legal precept. How is it legal to “ refuse to “grandfather in” older units if they wish. “


6 posted on 11/23/2007 6:28:45 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Racer1

I see a lot of these outside wood burner units in rural Missouri. They are very smoky...


7 posted on 11/23/2007 6:32:00 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wood is one of the dirtiest forms of heating and one of the worst for the environment. Some years ago, even Andy Rooney noticed that if everyone used wood heat, soon Vermont would look like Saudi Arabia.

The libertarian in me repels at regulation, but imagining that wood heat is environmentally friendly is self-delusion of the worst kind.


8 posted on 11/23/2007 6:33:06 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

remember these are politicians and possibly liberals pols, it does not need to make sense. Just needs to feel good


9 posted on 11/23/2007 6:34:31 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Does boiled wood taste as awful as boiled peanuts?


10 posted on 11/23/2007 6:35:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They are around here in PA also. But you don’t wait until several people spend $5000 each and then decide you don’t like it. Make them illegal from this point on and make existing users put a higher pipe on the smokestack (the smoke will still come back down on some days).


11 posted on 11/23/2007 6:40:05 AM PST by Racer1
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I have seen pictures of the area I now live from the early 1900’s and there is nary a tree to be seen, all pasture. Now the same area is so thickly wooded you need a compass to navigate. Actually there is more forest now than there has ever been since the area was settled.


12 posted on 11/23/2007 6:40:35 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

In the late 70s/ early 80s, air-tight woodburning stoves became very popular in the area I lived, largely in response to high oil and electricity prices. For a while it seemed like practically everyone had one. I remember walking outside at night in the winter, when temperature inversions were quite common, and you could feel the wood smoke immediately begin to irritate your lungs and throat. People think tobacco smoke is bad, but it’s got nothing on wood smoke. I’m also uncertain about the economics of it if you don’t have ready access to a good supply of cheap firewood.


13 posted on 11/23/2007 6:47:47 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

slow wood cooking stove are junk, try liveing next to five of them on a still winter day .
It settle in (smoke) for most have no chimmy and if you had one next to you ,,you would hate it i know i;m in the middle of a crap load of them ... They do need a law that the chimmies are much taller to try to solve the problem


14 posted on 11/23/2007 6:49:41 AM PST by Boner1 (Its Time to change are drug laws for some have gone on to be POTUS while other's have been inprison)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My first reaction to this post was outrage.

Then I remembered the neighbor with the woodstove. A cheap Yankee, he learned he could save money on trash collection by burning his rubbish in it. PVC bottles made clouds of yellowish grey heavier than air smoke that contained phosgene.

He stopped doing it, before I could leave him some Special Firewood. :-)

So, like everything else, it depends. If someone is burning CCA treated lumber, etc., they need to be stopped immediately.

I did have friends, however, who had a wood-fired baseboard furnace. They saved a lot of money, and no neighbors minded the rustic smell at all. There was one funny thing however regarding low stack temperatures...I was there once, and there were funny snowflake-like things that were falling in the yard, and a roaring sound. I ran outdoors to see a blue flame coming from the chimney that looked a lot like an upside-down Shuttle Launch. Creosote chimney fire.

15 posted on 11/23/2007 6:52:01 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You are on to something. Your right to fill the air will smoke and soot ends at the tip of my nose.


16 posted on 11/23/2007 6:52:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: -YYZ-

I remember the same thing in Colorado. That smoke was horrible. It does make going outside unbearable.


17 posted on 11/23/2007 6:57:03 AM PST by tje
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Don’t tell the people of Newfoundland that! They cut wood all summer for burning in the winter.


18 posted on 11/23/2007 7:05:50 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

17 posts and no one has gotten to the root of all this and put the blame where it belongs, at the feet of the enviro-nazis.

If the enviro-nazis hadn’t prevented the drilling of domestic oil, all this wouldn’t be occurring.


19 posted on 11/23/2007 7:06:36 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I lived in Texas back it the 80's and included in our property tax was a special tax on wood-burning fireplaces. It was about $600 per year.

That was enough incentive for us to convert it to gas and avoid the special fireplace tax.

20 posted on 11/23/2007 7:09:34 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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