Muslims discover Ron Paul (Anti-Zionists encouraged to register republican and send Paul money)

WordPress.com ^ | November 18, 2007 | mariahussain

[tlb]

After the Republican debate on Tuesday evening in Dearborn, Mich., a reporter from the Arab-American News asked Ron Paul what he thought of the term “Islamic fascism.”

“It’s a false term to make people think we’re fighting Hitler,” Paul responded. “It’s war propaganda designed to generate fear so that the war has to be spread.”

The call has gone out to all the Muslim Americans to hurry up and register to vote Republican so that they can vote in the Republican Primary to support Ron Paul, the anti-interventionist, non-isolationist candidate for President of the United States. Muslims are opening their wallets and joining teaparty07.com as well.

An anonymous Ron Paul supporter posted the following message on the internet: “Muslims and Americans have an unique window of opportunity for the 2008 election. There is a candidate running as a Republican that would work to completely cut off the funding to Israel, remove ALL US troops from Arab lands, and repeal the Patriot Act. He’s a Republican with Libertarian views named Ron Paul. Ron Paul’s policies ranging from monetary to foreign are top notch. Till now Muslims and Americans have not had an American Presidential candidate that really suited their best interests. This election is unique in that we have a man running as a Republican that speaks the truth…We know the current policies in the Middle East are failing, not only making it less safe in the world but hurting and killing innocent Muslims, which our media callously calls collateral damage. It is our duty as Muslims to follow the truth regardless of how futile it may seem. Ron Paul is the only candidate that does not seem to be swayed by the influential lobbies that the other candidates are catering to.”

Ron Paul stood up in Congress in 2006 and opposed a resolution that sided with Israel in the Lebanon-Israel conflict. He stated the following.

Ron Paul: “Mr. Speaker, I follow a policy in foreign affairs called non-interventionism. I do not believe we are making the United States more secure when we involve ourselves in conflicts overseas. The Constitution really doesn’t authorize us to be the policemen of the world, much less to favor one side over another in foreign conflicts. It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.”

Ron Paul has also sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act. He is one of the few members of Congress from either of the major houses that is speaking rationally about these issues. How can we get everyone, and I mean everyone, to join the Ron Paul Republican voter sign-up campaign?

There is general frustration with politicians these days, and the unwillingness to believe that supporting a particular candidate will make a difference. But whether Ron Paul wins or loses, ronpaul.meetup.com is a great way to meet your neighbors who are against the war and organize the community on a grassroots level. If something like Katrina ever happened to us, knowing our neighbors could mean the difference between life and death to our families.

The common thread I’ve been reading lately about leftists and Jews is that they are having trouble getting more than a dozen people to come to their stuff (whether anti-Zionist or Zionist). The anti-Israel movement is not moving forward, because “protest Zionist imperialism” is just not a catchy slogan. By contrast, there are over 400 RP activists against war taxes in Boston alone. Every day the list of passionate anti-war activists grows. Very few of them agree with every single RP position, they just want to get the Lobby out of the way and pull the troops out of Iraq.

One reason it’s working is because of the software. They made the ronpaul.meetup.com site almost like a dating site, where you can make friends with people in or near your zip code. They made it very easy to get together with new people to join the activism. You can’t beat technology, may as well use it.

In the event that RP actually won the election and got the Hamas treatment, his supporters are fully in support of the Right to Bear Arms. It would be interesting to see what followed.

If anti-war protesters want to continue to focus on the genocidal machinations of the global zionist-imperialist military, industrial, financial, political, neoliberal, media complex, they have to be willing to meet with anyone any time to hear what ideas people have to address this, which is our primary responsibility - even if they are Republicans.

If you ever saw Ron Paul in an interview it cannot be said that he avoids discussing vital issues. He is someone who is willing to make a statement and stick by it even when no one agrees with him. I don’t “believe” in electoral politics but it’s not that much sweat off my brow to go and vote to end war.

I think the fact that NO pro-Israel group will let Ron Paul speak at their convention, not even peace Zionists, is evidence enough that he is the only person to put in charge as commander-in-chief. And, even if he loses, making all these contacts with local anti-interventionists is priceless. If you want to expand the peace movement so that it overlaps with the freedom movement like ripples in a pond, you just have to respect the fact that people might agree with you, but for different reasons.

[incindiary]

That's because you are either blind or lying. Do you Paulists actually think we are stupid, when you pretend that your candidate has no massive support from the rabidly leftist anti-war crowd and the screwballs from stormfront? And the Islamos for obvious reasons have the greatest interest in Paul as President. Bizarro world indeed.

I have stated all along that people on the left DO respect him for his position on the war, but just about everything else that Dr. Paul stands for is diametrically opposed to everything leftists stand for. He wants to abolish government departments, he wants to make the government smaller, he talks about self-reliance, the fact is, if they voted for him, he would take away most of what they believe in (socialism). So with the exception of the ones who are willing to throw out everything they believe in to vote on one issue, he doesn't have their support.

The fact that you guys keep choosing to ignore (because heaven forbid that people actually disagree with you) is that there are many, MANY, regular middle-class Americans who support him who are people who love this country, NOT lefties or other fringe groups, but are simply people who want to restore our constitution, civil liberties, our sovereingty, etc. I have posted pictures of rallies. Look at them, see for yourself. But even if he does have support from Arab Americans, so what? Are they not Americans? Yes or no?

[Larry Lucido]

"And Ron Paul keeps picking up support from his broad coalition who hear an inclusive message about smaller government and liberty and who find his grassroots supporters to be a welcoming group."

[KDD]

In reference to your nuttag:

(Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)

I see you are a disciple of one of the most bloodthirsty anti-semitic figures in history...If I had to guess I'd say you're a Rudy Tooty supporter.

1483 Tomas de Torquemada was appointed head of the Spanish Inquisition. In his twelve years in office, 13,000 Jewish converts to Christianity accused of practicing their original faith in secret were burned at the stake on his orders.

[BlackElk]

jmc813: Yes, he has done no abortions but neither have many fully pro-abort OB-GYNs. The paleophony Dr. Demento (whatever his personal views) insists that the fedgov has no jurisdiction over abortion more than three decades after SCOTUS crammed it down our throats. That makes paleoPaulie, pro-life holy pictures or not, the last refuge of Planned Barrenhood and NARAL. Who gives a rat’s patoot as to the paleopipsqueak’s personal opinions when he refuses to DO anything adequate to stop the American Holocaust. Passing the buck to the states on abortion (Spitzer, Schwarzenneger, Blagojevich, Napolitano, Sebelius, etc) is no final solution to the abortionist problem any more than cowering in the paleoPaulie hidey hole praying that the baaad people go awaaaay a la Neville Chamberlain is a solution to the Islamofascist problem.

[incindiary]

"He is WORSE than Hillary Clinton."

Statements like that to me are evidence that some of you are so far gone, (if you actually believe that) that all I can do is pray for you.

When you start to agree with a corrupt-to-the-core, one-worlder like Hillary more than you do with a man with a long track record of voting according to the constitution, and fighting for civil liberties and our sovereignty, then you really need to wake the hell up, and quick.

[incindiary]

"Do you think the threat isn’t there? Do you think that the fact that W doesn’t plug the leak makes RP’s lunacy acceptable?"

Don't put words in my mouth. I asked a simple question. Instead of replying with another question, just answer my original question.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Hey bray. Just chilling here in Hillary’s basement.

[svcw]

IJ, we have allready goon ovr the speling misstakes.

Do you ever listen to what the man says? Do you ever read what he has written? Are you aware of who is supporting him? Did you read the article in question?

[jrooney]

Well said.

[lormand]

It will be nice to come back to Freerepublic and chat with like minded people again, instead of swatting suicide spammers all day.

[Iwo Jima]

Yes.

Yes. For 30 years.

Some, but not everybody, I'm sure. I make my own decisions. I am not affected by the herd mentality.

Yes.

Now will you answer me why you think that Ron Paul is an anti-semite?

[brazzaville]

Good afternoon.
“Instead of replying with another question, just answer my original question.”

I can’t do that, FRiend. Since I’m sure that the threat is there and that W cares very much about the security of the nation, it’s not a simple case of if this then that. As to why W hasn’t dealt with the border, as I said, it’s incomprehensible.

How’s that? Now show me where I did more than ask you a couple of questions and then answer mine. Do you believe the threat isn’t there and do you think that W’s failure is relevant to what I believe RP’s will be?

I do apologize for implying that the Paul camp is more illogical than some of the others.

Michael Frazier

[brazzaville]

Good afternoon.

I will absolutely keep an open mind.

I try to be civil, but it’s a struggle, isn’t it.

I’m going to hang it up and go kill some virtual North Koreans and aliens in the new game Crysis.

Later

Michael Frazier

[SJackson]

BlackElk, you’re a bloodthirsty antisemite, what can I say.

[incindiary]

Thanks for your reply.

"Do you believe the threat isn’t there and do you think that W’s failure is relevant to what I believe RP’s will be?"

I do believe there is a threat, but at the same time, I have gotten to the point where I just don't trust Dubya at all anymore. So I'm leaning towards thinking that the threat is greatly exaggerated, to keep people gung ho about the war. If I'm wrong about that, and the terrorist threat to us IS great, then he should have closed the borders long ago, and shown more concern about who is getting into the country.

[SJackson]

Sorry, last post was meant for you

[BlackElk]

People who include the words "Ron Paul" without negatives in their taglines are in no position to criticize others. You understand little of history, of Catholicism or of politics but then you are a libertarian and a love slave of paleoPaulie, surrendermonkey extraordinaire. I am a conservative. You are not. For nearly two thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church has generally turned the spadefuls of earth over onto the graves of its enemies. The worst of libertoonianism will be no different from the rest. Sodomy and baby-killing are not a winning ideology even when combined with dope smoking.

I have no precise idea how many were executed by the Inquisition in the days when the victory of Ferdinand and Isabella was being completed by the policy of Christendom in Spain. Neither, truth be told, are you likely to have an accurate clue. Anyone executed was convicted and not merely accused. 1492 Spain did not have a First Amendment freedom of religion any more than do paleoPaulie's Islamofascist passion pals and there were far more Islamotyrants who were expelled from Spain than Jews. You will also want to look up Franco's role in saving hundreds of thousands of Jews from the Holocaust by running them through Spain to Spanish Morocco and freedom. The TdTGC is an actual subgroup pf Catholic Freepers for purposes of waging wars here against SSPX schismatics and excommunicati and uphold Catholic doctrine against them when they pose as Catholic. Some, but not all, of us also uphold American patriotism in our foreign wars and bash paleoPaulie. Personally, I am relentless in my support of Israel and opposition to our nation's and their nation's Islamofascist enemies. Sorry about you. Some of us, regrettably, (certainly not me or my family) may even be planning to vote for the paleowimpburger in next year's primaries and caucuses. The general common sense of Republicans and the enthusiasm of real Republicans for killing America's enemies in, you should pardon the expression, WARS, is quite likely to guarantee that paleoPaulie will be erased from the GOP POTUS contest in a couple of months, as you well know. If he runs third party (Al Qaeda?, Libertoonian?, Faux "Constitutionalist", Feckless Wimp? or whatever), he will hurt her Hillaryness more than he will hurt the GOP.

Under American standards or general moral standards, the expulsion from Spain of Jews who retained their Judaism was an outrage. So was the eagerness with which the expulsions enriched Spaniards who got to buy the property of those expelled for less than value. That some Jews chose instead to be baptized while secretly continuing in Judaism is understandable under the circumstances but they well understood the risk they were facing. These were known as Moranos, BTW. Those were difficult times but the unification of Spain as a Catholic country was acceptable in the context of those times. Of course, we were primarily expelling Muslims after nine hundred years of their using Spain as a foothold in Europe so I am not surprised at Paulistinian objections to the rule of Ferdinand and Isabella.

You don't like the Catholic concept of Christendom. I promise to be concerned about that right after I work out a near infinity of more important agendas.

I can safely say that I will NEVER vote for a despicable gutless peacecreep like paleoPaulie. I find it hard to imagine voting for Julieannie but I would at least give a brief ear to him. PaleoPaulie will NEVER get that consideration since he is nopthing more than a delusional and dishonest antiAmerican antiwar antimilitary moonbat.

Looking forward to early 2008 when we destroy your candidate for POTUS and the later Congressional primary when we take his antiAmerican backside out of Congress.

BTW, so far from being a Julieannie supporter, I was a state chairman for Ronaldus Maximus in 1976 when he challenged Ford. No one ever questioned RR's patriotism. No one ever suspected Run Paul's patriotism (at least for the US).

If you recognize yourself as frustrated now, just wait until the votes start coming in.

[BlackElk]

Iwo Jima: Ummmm, maybe because paleoPaulie has the ambition to stand idly by while Ahmanutjob of Iran develops the nukes and deploys them in annihilating Israel because paleoPaulie does not see the words Iran, nuclear weapons or Israel in his idea of the constitution. Other missing items: Air Force, ICBMs, eliminating abortion, actual marriage between one man and woman, etc. After Israel is thus annihilated, the paleosurrenderthing will twist his hankie and plead that it was none of our bidness. That may not be pure antisemitism but it will do until the real thing comes along.

[SJackson]

And on the issue of abortion, obviously you're right.

Though he may well be personally pro life, there's no indication he favors an amendment to the Constitution, a Republican Platform bedrock for nearly 30 years, nor any legislation on a federal level.

Crimes against the unborn are crimes against the mother, not the unborn. This is a no brainer, irrespective of ones opinion of when life begins. Per Ron Paul Scott Peterson should not be on death row.

The decision belongs with the states, a reasonable position for now, but certainly not one that supports a 100% pro live characterization. I believe both Lawrence Tribe and Alan Dershowitz believe Roe is bad law, and that the decision devolves to the states. I suspect they'd advocate different local solutions. And wouldn't be opposed to federal legislation. You'll recall ole George "pro-life" Ryan, I'm pro life, but the law is the law from the other side of the mouth.

Taking a minor across state lines without parental position to purchase an abortion. Well, what pro-lifer opposes that clearly immoral posture. Immoral, like the Mann act prohibition against transporting minors for immoral purposes. To the Supreme Court or 5 times, maybe abortion isn't immora.

[KDD]

You writings read like they were written by a sexually frustrated 16 year old boy. You're the joke bud.