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Muslims discover Ron Paul (Anti-Zionists encouraged to register republican and send Paul money)
WordPress.com ^ | November 18, 2007 | mariahussain

Posted on 11/19/2007 6:00:13 AM PST by tlb

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To: KDD
Do you credit Clinton for the 9 years between the terrorists attack on the WTC in 1992 and its attack on same in 2002? Why no terrorist attacks in that time peroid?

Right, because the WTC is the only American property anywhere in the world that terrorists attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

I used to think the "NEVAR FORGET!!1" crowd were a bit hysterical, but I see know how quickly people do forget. I see Ron Paul bumper stickers all over a college campus I sometimes visit, that's reason enough for me not to vote for him.

201 posted on 11/19/2007 11:29:35 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: jmc813
Because there are only a few months left, he's winning big, and here we are on the premiere conservative Internet forum, and there are more gay-ass threads like this than there are promoting people like Thompson. If this is a microcosm of what's happening on the American right, we're in major trouble.

1-Paul's supporters aren't Republicans, they're antiwar across the spectrum. The only mention of the GOP is that it's been hijacked. They won't be voting for a Republican.

2-Thompson isn't going to lose the nomination because Paul propaganda is answered on Freerepublic. If I'm wrong then my opinion on expulsion changes, JR should ban Paul supporters as other sites have done.

202 posted on 11/19/2007 11:30:13 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KDD
Yeah...didn't happen in Boston Harbor though did it. Do you know what our military was doing in Yemen besides being sitting ducks.

So you think the Navy should stay tied up in American harbors?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tom_explosion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_attack

203 posted on 11/19/2007 11:37:12 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Caesar Soze
So you think the Navy should stay tied up in American harbors?

That's true, he would close all overseas bases, including all in the middle east, so by definition attacks on our forces in the mideast and elsewhere would end. As to Pearl Harbor, he's already minimized 9/11 as only a month of highway deaths. Pearl Harbor was only a month of 1941 deaths.

204 posted on 11/19/2007 11:51:45 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: jmc813
"I love how the people who aren’t behind any candidate harbor these conspiracy theories about who other freepers are backing."

I concede the possibility. I guess it takes all kinds of people, and just because you are the only rabid Paulistinian who also supports Fred Thompson on Freerepublic doesn't make it automatically untrue.

205 posted on 11/19/2007 11:57:03 AM PST by lormand (...proud to be an ex-democRAT)
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To: lormand
and just because you are the only rabid Paulistinian who also supports Fred Thompson on Freerepublic

Didn't you just say before that there was a trend for Paulistinians to pretend and like Fred?

206 posted on 11/19/2007 12:02:41 PM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: jmc813
Yes, but in your case I used "rabid" as a qualifier.
207 posted on 11/19/2007 12:08:11 PM PST by lormand (...proud to be an ex-democRAT)
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To: Caesar Soze
And how about the one you failed to mention. The killing of over 300 Marines in the barracks bombing in Beirut. How did that play out? Did Ronald Reagan say "ok people we are engaged in a world wide war on terror" Prepare to surrender your civil liberties".

Or did he say...

Middle Eastern politics are insane and we have no right to sacrifice our soldiers by putting them between these barbaric factions.

He left Lebanon and withdrew ALL our troops.

period.

So do you consider Reagan to have been a cut and run coward or do you consider him to be a realist?

208 posted on 11/19/2007 12:11:28 PM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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To: KDD
And how about the one you failed to mention. The killing of over 300 Marines in the barracks bombing in Beirut. How did that play out? Did Ronald Reagan say "ok people we are engaged in a world wide war on terror" Prepare to surrender your civil liberties"....Or did he say...Middle Eastern politics are insane and we have no right to sacrifice our soldiers by putting them between these barbaric factions.... He left Lebanon and withdrew ALL our troops....period....So do you consider Reagan to have been a cut and run coward or do you consider him to be a realist?

Well, since he withdrew not unilaterally, but in conjuction with negotiated agreements, which provided for the evacuation of the PLO to Tunis, ceded the southern ten miles of Lebanon to Israel, and boosted military aid to Israel by about 40%, I'd go with realist rather than surrender monkey.

209 posted on 11/19/2007 12:21:58 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Caesar Soze

Meant to include you in 209


210 posted on 11/19/2007 12:23:04 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KDD
Good morning.

Your “often unmentioned fact” is neither unmentioned nor proved to be fact. It’s trotted out whenever the left wants to persuade others that the nation is behind them.

Asking whether one supports surrendering Iraq to the Islamists or withdrawing from the world stage in the hope that we will be left alone would give you a much different figure.

Did we install an Islamist government in Iraq, or are we giving a nascent democracy a chance to emerge? Time will tell, if we let it but if we leave you may be sure the fanatics will win and we will face them here. Where did you say? Malibu?

We aren’t selling Israel out so much as being incompetent in our demands to it on how it should deal with it’s enemies. Israel exists because of us but if we go along with Ron Paul's desire to stop foreign interventionism Israel will stand alone. Isn’t there something in the Bible about that?

Kosovo, like so many other problems we face is a problem bill clinton left us that W has failed to deal with. Cleaning house over at Foggy Bottom and Langley would go a long way toward fixing things, there and elsewhere.

Things are going in Pakistan the way they are and we will have to deal with it. Would it be better if we weren’t involved there? At least our good Spec Ops guys are rumored to be securing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.

You know, friend, you appear to support RP’s cut and run policy while saying that our allies can’t trust us not to cut and run. That’s certainly the case if Ron Paul or any DemocRAT wins the election.

Stay the course and leave a somewhat stable Iraq that might be our friend or declare defeat and insure the rule of Sharia law. We will see what sense the war makes if we lose.

Michael Frazier

211 posted on 11/19/2007 12:33:50 PM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Caesar Soze
FYI. KDD won't give you a direct answer...


212 posted on 11/19/2007 12:34:31 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: tlb
"I guess they trust David Duke's judgment."

Would that be David Duke, the Grand Wizard of the KKK that backed Ronald Reagan in his bid for the White House in 1980?
213 posted on 11/19/2007 12:50:37 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: brazzaville

Excerpts Iraqi Constitution.

SECTION ONE: FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 15:

Every individual has the right to enjoy life, security and liberty. Deprivation or restriction of these rights is prohibited (except in accordance with the law) and based on a decision issued by a competent judicial authority.

Supreme Court:

Second: The Federal Supreme Court shall be made up of number of judges, and experts in Islamic jurisprudence and law experts whose number, the method of their selection and the work of the court shall be determined by a law enacted by a two-third majority of the members of the Council of Representatives.

Article 91:

Decisions of the Federal Supreme Court are final and binding for all authorities.

“Stay the course and leave a somewhat stable Iraq that might be our friend or declare defeat and insure the rule of Sharia law.”

It appears that our victory has insured the rule of “ Sharia law.”


214 posted on 11/19/2007 12:54:29 PM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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To: Nextrush
Heck, I’d probably vote for Ron Paul too, but I’m independent and it would violate my principles to register with any political party.

Both major parties are so damn corrupted by foreign influence Americans cannot win with either. Twenty-five percent of American corporations funding the major campaigns are primarily foreign owned now, up from barely 10% a decade ago. This coupled with foreign governments, primarily Saudi Arabia and Communist China funding the BIG government Democrats and Republicans relish, are bad omens for the nation.

2008 may be the last time Americans get to truly choose their president.

215 posted on 11/19/2007 1:06:45 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: brazzaville

AND NOW, FRIENDS AND COUNTRYMEN, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.

She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.

She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.

She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[America’s] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.

John Quincy Adams on U.S. Foreign Policy


216 posted on 11/19/2007 1:48:14 PM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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To: KDD
Good afternoon.

Depending on your perspective, the Bill of Rights can mean different things to different people.

To the Sunni Taliban Sharia means forcing the populace to live as the Taliban decides it will, with stoning rape victims and hanging homosexuals, along with burning record stores and flogging barbers who cut beards among the punishments.

The Iraqi constitution provides for judicial review by elected representative who aren’t necessarily mullahs or imams of one sect but will be composed of a two-third majority of the members of the Council of Representatives. That’s not to say that Iraq won’t take the path of radicalism even with our presence, but it will almost certainly do so if we leave now.

I admit that you are correct about Sharia being the final word in the Iraqi constitution. The interpretation of what that word means in Iraq is what I’m concerned about. I also accept that Islam itself may be the enemy and if we lose, which we haven’t,or leave which we will if Ron Paul or any DemocRAT wins, it will mean that the radicals decide what Sharia law means.

We have a good chance to influence events throughout the Middle East or we can run away and have no chance. Ron Paul wants us to run away.

I do like what RP says about immigration, but I don’t think he really has a clue as to how to make his word fact and so I have no faith in him.

Michael Frazier

217 posted on 11/19/2007 2:11:03 PM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: George W. Bush; Allegra; Petronski; ejonesie22; Badeye; lormand; fieldmarshaldj
45 days and counting until the paleowimpburger gets barbecued in Iowa. The Islamofascisti and their buds will be soooooo saaaaaad.

It is true that it will not be just be the Islamofascisti who will be heartbroken. Other heartbroken groups will be paleopeacecreeps, the antiAmericans generally, Code Pink, International ANSWER, those who would like to woo our ENEMIES by selling them arms with which to attack us (isn't that part of paleoPaulie's "trade" policy?), antimilitary types, welfare state enthusiastss (not that paleoPaulie favors welfare personally but many of his supporters would like to make the Pentagon's budget available to be squandered on welfare between now and a few years from now when our country would be conquered by the Sharia law types), those who like "pro-life" paleoPaulie because he is devoted to all talk and no actual action, goldbugs, eighteenth century folks, Jane Fonda types, other al Qaeda love slaves, etc., etc., (BARF!).

By mid-January, this paleoPaulie farce should be over and we can concentrate on taking away the twerp's Congressional nomination and getting Chris Peden into Congress.

218 posted on 11/19/2007 2:23:51 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: George W. Bush
Actually, Dr. Paul has made only one appearance at Arab-American Institute as did many other GOP candidates. And he is just as willing to appear at Jewish conferences if they invite him. RP goes pretty much wherever he's invited and always has.

The main appeal and effort in Arabic and Muslim circles has come from the RP grassroots supporters. We ran a very nice ad in Dearborn, MI to appeal to the large Arab community there, for instance. Just spreading terrorism in our own special way with free speech and inclusion of all Americans, even those people so evil as to be born of Arab ancestry (including the majority of Arabs in America who are and have always been Christians).

QFT. Thank you, it's nice to see people who aren't sucked into the groupthink mentality.

219 posted on 11/19/2007 2:23:59 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE)
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To: brazzaville

Very well.

I hope as you watch events unfold that you will keep an open mind regarding Ron Paul. Civility on all sides is sorely lacking on these threads and your attempt to be so is appreciated.


220 posted on 11/19/2007 2:31:30 PM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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