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UFO sightings are no laughing matter, group says
afp ^ | 11/12/07 | afp

Posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:44 PM PST by mdittmar

UFOs may be fodder for comedians and science fiction but there was no joking Monday when a group of pilots and officials demanded the US government reopen an investigation into unidentified flying objects.

The 19 former pilots and government officials, who say they have seen UFOs themselves or been involved in probes of strange flying objects, told reporters their questions can no longer be dismissed more than 30 years after the US case was closed.

"We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that all UFOs can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms," said Fife Symington, former governor of Arizona and air force pilot who says he saw a UFO himself in 1997.

"Instead our country needs to reopen its official investigation that it shut down in 1969," Symington told a news conference.

Symington read an appeal on behalf of the group of who came to Washington to recount their sightings of UFOs.

"We believe that for reasons of both national security and flight safety, every country should make an effort to identify any object in its airspace," the statement said.

The group included a retired pilot from Air France who said he saw an enormous flying disc during a flight from Nice to London in 1994, an Iranian pilot who tried in vain to fire on a UFO in 1976 and a former US official from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) who claims a probe into a UFO seen over Alaska in 1987 was squelched.

"'Who believes in UFOs?' is the kind of attitude of the FAA all the time," Symington said.

"However, when I asked the CIA person: 'What do you think it was,' he responded 'a UFO.'"

When Symington suggested the government tell Americans about a UFO, the CIA official allegedly told him: "'No way, if we were to tell the American public there are UFOs they would panic.'"

The subject of UFOs came up in a recent debate among presidential candidates, with Democrat Dennis Kucinich saying he saw a UFO.

Skeptics say UFO sightings are merely aircraft or meteors re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.


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To: Quix

Sounds and feels like you are still castigating in punitive tones and words those who decline to play your game by your rules.
***Likewise, prince.


341 posted on 11/19/2007 9:26:49 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

SOUNDS LIKE

I have a much better sense of the pulse of the UFO ping list than you do.

LOL.


342 posted on 11/19/2007 9:33:42 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I don’t see anything in my post that mentions the UFO ping list.


343 posted on 11/19/2007 9:37:40 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

I understand . . .

insightfulness can be a very spotty thing.


344 posted on 11/19/2007 9:38:54 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; UCANSEE2

See post #328. I notice you get that a lot.


345 posted on 11/19/2007 10:23:25 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

You seem to see that as a negative.

Interesting


346 posted on 11/19/2007 11:40:53 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Kevmo

I’ll clear any confusion.

I was saying .... DITTO...... and acknowledging that Quix put it in better words than I could have.


347 posted on 11/19/2007 1:35:56 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2; Quix

Thanks for clearing the confusion. I do notice that Quix gets quite a few posts that seem to suggest that he wanders around a lot, so I basically added yours into that category because that’s what it looked like. I didn’t have time to drill down and check your posting history with respect to the issue, in other words I was going out on a limb. And No, I will not read that book by Shirley McClaine. She’s just plain too liberal for me, regardless if she has seen some flying saucers in South America.


348 posted on 11/19/2007 1:40:12 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thanks LVD.


349 posted on 11/19/2007 8:01:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Via another FREEPER:

http://www.sedona.biz/witness-to-roswell0107.htm

Excerpt:

Sprouse, then a corporal and engine mechanic in the Army Air Forces, could not believe what his ground crew was telling him: A UFO had crashed in the New Mexico desert, on a ranch 70 miles away.

The story made the front page of the Roswell Daily Record: “RAAF Captures Flying Saucer,” read the headline.

According to the July 8 story, “the intelligence office of the 509th Bombardment group at Roswell Army Air Field announced ... that the field has come into possession of a flying saucer.”

The craft supposedly had been recovered after the ranch owner notified the sheriff’s department, who sent Maj. Jesse Marcel and a team to investigate.

“Marcel and a detail from his department went to the ranch and recovered the disk,” the story stated. “After the intelligence officer here had inspected the instrument it was flown to higher headquarters.”


350 posted on 11/19/2007 8:27:15 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Thanks Quix.


351 posted on 11/19/2007 8:46:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the AirForce link article.

They must think we are super stupid.

Elite idiots.

The dummies used were not used until 5 years AFTER Roswell and they expect us to believe that was the source of the alien body stuff.

Sheesh.


352 posted on 11/19/2007 9:01:52 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

FROM:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/etview.html

PURPORTED ET INTERVIEW . . .

EXCERPT:

Background
The color video footage, which lasts for a total of two minutes and fifty-five seconds, was apparently smuggled out of the secret Groom Lake “Area 51” facility in Nevada by a man referring to himself as “Victor”. The video film depicts a Grey alien being interrogated at the government facility.

The footage first came to light on the Art Bell radio show on 13th March, 1997 when ufologist Sean David Morton was interviewed. Morton claimed the interrogation was fairly recent, sometime in 1996, and that renowned UFO expert Bob Dean apparently cried at the advanced screening of the film.

After claiming to have smuggled the film out of the Groom Lake facility in Nevada, Victor resolved to have the footage broadcast on network television as soon as possible in order to pulicly expose his claims. Victor believes that if his identity is discovered and he is subsequently assassinated, this would only further help to confirm the claims and authenticity behind the film.

Victor approached many television companies in his attempts to show the footage to the public. He first approached Fox TV, who turned him down after the problems in authenticity they had when the Roswell autopsy footage was shown by them. Fox felt they were being deceived for a second time. Eventually, in July 1996, Victor found an independent production company in Los Angeles, California called Rocket Home Pictures Productions, who agreed to produce a documentary based around the interview. Morton was brought in by Rocket’s president, Tom Coleman, to give his views, thus being the first “outsider” to view the footage.

Contents Of The Video

After seeing the interview footage, Morton provides a chilling and detailed description of what he saw:

“The film was shot through a large plane of glass. There was no sound accompanying the images. The interview took place in a darkened room, lit with an eerie greenish glow, I could make out the silhouettes of two men, one dressed in military uniform with what appeared to be the stars on the epaulet of his jacket, and another more casually dressed man with his hand occassionally rubbing his forehead. They sat with their backs to the camera at one end of a long table, which was littered with wires, chords and microphones. There were what appeared to be medical devices. One in particular was blinking erratically, as if it was monitoring a very sick heart. And there sitting at the end of the table was a small, beige-skinned, black-eyed, bulbous headed creature, the like of which haunt the nightmares of thousands of unwilling abductees.”

Morton made many references to the creature’s sick appearance and condition. The alien made very jerky movements and kept bobbing up and down. He continued to describe the apparently distressed state the creature was in.

“Its skin was a pinkish beige, but the rest of the head looked purple and bruised, as if it had suffered severe contusions across the skull.”

The contents of the tape grew progressively more disturbing. Towards the end of the tape, the creature goes into what appears to be violent spasms, as if it was having a seizure. The mouth of the alien opens and closes before a foam begins to come out. At that point the heart monitor (as described by Morton) begins to start jumping wildly, at which point the man in the military looking uniform signals to a couple of medics, who rush into the frame and aid the alien. As the doctors treat the alien, the footage suddenly comes to an abrupt end.

Fact or Fiction?

The authenticity of the footage is seen differently by many people. Morton is convinced the footage is real due to strong relationships with stories of alien abductees and the information on the footage in the lower part of the frame.

I myself am dubious, but do recognise the factors which lead to its possible true authenticity. The ET’s appearance and features are recognisable as those mentioned by hundreds of abductees. Known as “The Gourdos” or the more feared “Grey” species, the alien is instantly recognisable by any Ufologist.

Another factor helping the video’s authenticity is the information etched into the bottom of the video.

. . .


353 posted on 11/19/2007 9:24:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

PURPORTED INTERVIEW WITH ET

FROM

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/etview.html

EXCERPT

Victor approached many television companies in his attempts to show the footage to the public. He first approached Fox TV, who turned him down after the problems in authenticity they had when the Roswell autopsy footage was shown by them. Fox felt they were being deceived for a second time. Eventually, in July 1996, Victor found an independent production company in Los Angeles, California called Rocket Home Pictures Productions, who agreed to produce a documentary based around the interview. Morton was brought in by Rocket’s president, Tom Coleman, to give his views, thus being the first “outsider” to view the footage.

Contents Of The Video

After seeing the interview footage, Morton provides a chilling and detailed description of what he saw:

“The film was shot through a large plane of glass. There was no sound accompanying the images. The interview took place in a darkened room, lit with an eerie greenish glow, I could make out the silhouettes of two men, one dressed in military uniform with what appeared to be the stars on the epaulet of his jacket, and another more casually dressed man with his hand occassionally rubbing his forehead. They sat with their backs to the camera at one end of a long table, which was littered with wires, chords and microphones. There were what appeared to be medical devices. One in particular was blinking erratically, as if it was monitoring a very sick heart. And there sitting at the end of the table was a small, beige-skinned, black-eyed, bulbous headed creature, the like of which haunt the nightmares of thousands of unwilling abductees.”

Morton made many references to the creature’s sick appearance and condition. The alien made very jerky movements and kept bobbing up and down. He continued to describe the apparently distressed state the creature was in.

“Its skin was a pinkish beige, but the rest of the head looked purple and bruised, as if it had suffered severe contusions across the skull.”

The contents of the tape grew progressively more disturbing. Towards the end of the tape, the creature goes into what appears to be violent spasms, as if it was having a seizure. The mouth of the alien opens and closes before a foam begins to come out. At that point the heart monitor (as described by Morton) begins to start jumping wildly, at which point the man in the military looking uniform signals to a couple of medics, who rush into the frame and aid the alien. As the doctors treat the alien, the footage suddenly comes to an abrupt end.


354 posted on 11/19/2007 9:28:31 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

best UFO pic?

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/Photo420.htm


355 posted on 11/19/2007 9:31:52 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Not thrilled with the intermediate source but the info is solid:

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/99895-moon-0

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U.S. scientists unveil NASA’s secrets about cities on the Moon and microbes on Mars

The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. Astronauts took pictures of the objects that they found, but NASA ordered Johnston to destroy the images. Johnston did not follow the order. He said that the U.S. government had been keeping this information a secret for 40 years.

U.S. scientists say that Apollo astronauts found ancient ruins on the Moon (enterprisemission.com)

Johnston’s startling Apollo allegations have recently appeared in a new book, “Dark Mission: the Secret History of NASA,” co-authored by former NASA consultant and CBS Science Advisor, Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara, an aerospace engineering consultant. According to Kay Ferrari, JPL Director of the SSA Program (in a phone call to Johnston last week), it was Johnston “being quoted [as] criticizing NASA in Hoagland’s new book, ‘Dark Mission,’” that prompted her to ask for Johnston’s resignation from the SSA Program. When Johnston refused, citing First Amendment protections of free speech afforded all NASA employees, even those at JPL, Ferrari apparently decided to remove him arbitrarily from the SSA Program this week without cause.

The low quality pictures included in the book depict ruins of buildings, huge dome-like objects made of glass, stone towers and castled hanging in the air.

. . . .

In December NASA announced plans to build an international base on one of the poles of the Moon. The base is to be finished by 2024. Russia’s booster rocket maker, Energia, has a more ambitious program: to build a permanent manned base on the Moon by 2015.

. . . .

Russia says the base will be built to develop the industrial production of helium-3. U.S. specialists prefer not to say anything specific on the matter. To crown it all, China launched its first satellite to the Moon on October 24. China also intends to launch a lunar base and an unmanned space probe to the Moon by 2010.

Non-radioactive isotope of helium, helium-3, is a powerful fuel for the nuclear synthesis. Only six tons of this fuel would provide enough energy to power a large European country for one year. The qualities of the gas (pollution-free and very high output) make many countries treat the perspective as seriously as possible. Germany, India and China conduct a number of research works to develop methods of helium-3 extraction.


356 posted on 11/20/2007 7:08:12 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: UCANSEE2; All; Las Vegas Dave

An interesting summary of stuff from Greer’s Disclosure Proj. I think he inflates Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s character but I guess that’s par for the course:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/PressReleaseNov142007.htm

OPEN LETTER TO GOVERNOR SYMINGTON AND JAMES FOX

THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT

STEVEN M. GREER MD, DIRECTOR

14 November 2007

Dear Governor Symington and Mr. Fox,

Congratulations on an excellent press conference on Monday. We are heartened to see the process of Disclosure continuing and that some of the witnesses and materials brought forward by The Disclosure Project (http://www.DisclosureProject.org) are continuing to reach the public.

Regarding the request for a government/civilian panel to investigate the UFO matter, while we appreciate your laudable purpose in making this request, we are concerned about the unintended strategic consequences of such a process. To wit:

It is important to realize that powerful and well-funded unacknowledged special access projects (USAPs) within sectors of the US and other governments, and working largely through ‘work for others’ contracts with private institutes and corporations, have already been investigating the UFO/ET matter for decades.

These projects are rogue, unconstitutional and transnational in nature. In briefings that I conducted personally for CIA Director R. James Woolsey, Defense Intelligence Agency Director General Patrick Hughes, the Director of Intelligence, Joint Staff (J2) and senior members of key Congressional committees (Senate Intelligence Committee, House Government Oversight committee, etc.) among others, it was made clear that the chain of command has been subverted.

Even after providing current project code names and numbers to J2, and after he subsequently located one of these USAPs within the Pentagon and demanded to be ‘read into’ (or briefed) on the operation, this Admiral informed us that he was denied access to these projects.

The science and technology behind these ET vehicles have been studied since at least the 1940’s and have been largely understood and reproduced. Their energy and propulsion systems, once disclosed, would eliminate the need for oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, public utilities and so forth. Many UFO sightings are, in fact, of these advanced aircraft which have been developed by Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, SAIC and other military contractors and were operational by the late 1950s.

Importantly, in 1969 the Condon Committee at the University of Colorado, a panel much like what you are recommending, became a fraud perpetrated on the public, and its chairman, Dr. Condon, was a secret, unacknowledged CIA asset (after briefing CIA Director Woolsey and making a FOIA request, we obtained a CIA document that establishes this fact).

Dr. Robert Wood, then of McDonnel Douglas Aerospace, was involved with the Condon Committee and discovered that Dr. Condon was sanitizing any credible evidence from the report and even withheld such evidence from other panel members (see www.DisclosureProject.org witness testimony by Dr. Wood). When Dr. Wood challenged Dr. Condon on this behavior, Dr. Condon contacted Mr. McDonnel directly and attempted to get Dr. Wood fired. Any such committee today would most likely be a similar corrupt hoax and would seriously set-back Disclosure and only deepen the cover-up.

In light of the above, we recommend a strategy to have open, secrecy-free hearings before a relevant Congressional committee, such as the House Government Oversight Subcommittee for domestic affairs, chaired by UFO-observer Rep. Dennis Kucinich, or some other committee headed by a similarly honest and trustworthy chairperson. Alternatively, a hearing by the UN or the World Court would be an acceptable venue.

Importantly, since The Disclosure Project now has over 400 military, government, corporate and intelligence witnesses from around the world, as well as corroborating official documents and project code numbers and names, such a pool of witnesses testifying before an open, televised hearing would assure honest, real-time Disclosure. This process, so long as open and conducted by an honest chairperson, would be much less likely to be corrupted than a government panel investigation.

I wish you great success in your important work towards disclosing the truth about UFOs and wish to assure you that all of us at The Disclosure Project stand ready to assist you and this process in every way we can. Please feel free to contact me at any time to discuss this matter further.

Best always,

Steven M. Greer MD
Director
The Disclosure Project


357 posted on 11/20/2007 7:42:56 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; All

some additional DISCLOSURE PROJECT interesting articles are at these links as pdf files:

NOTE. We have a FREEPER who used to work with DR Greer in the emergency room. Our FREEPER characterized him as high in medical skills and personal integrity—the real deal. All the hoopla following his notoriety and hobnobbing with the higher ranking sorts seemed to alter his priorities considerably. And, at one point, he was fairly fearful of the risks to his life and family, IIRC. In any case, it is interesting that we have a FREEPER who has worked extensively with the guy and asserts [my paraphrase] that he’s not per se a flake.

A FRENCH ONLY interview from May 2007 article for those who read French:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/PDF-Documents/LaSemaineSGreerMay2007.pdf

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http://www.disclosureproject.org/bassiorinterview.htm

UFOs: What the Government Really Knows

Exclusive Interview by Jean-Noel Bassior
published in Hustler magazine’s November 2005 issue.

Click Here for Scanned Article

For more than 50 years, shadowy government agencies have supressed
information about extraterrestrials and the use of E.T. technology.

In 1998 Dr. Steven M. Greer resigned his post as Chairman of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in North Carolina to spend all his time and energy on exposing a massive corporate-government coverup of extraterrestrial contact that’s been kept under wraps for decades. Why does this matter? It’s not so much the dozens of deceased aliens secreted at Fort Huachuca in Arizona, Greer says, or even the supersecret radionic technology that took the life of his assistant and two colleagues and nearly killed him. It’s not even the prototypes of UFOs that roam the Southwest’s friendly skies, looking so much like real E.T. craft that it’s hard to tell the difference. (Your tax dollars at work.)

What’s important, Greer insists, is that if the government came clean with what it knows about E.T. technology, we could upgrade the planet. Not only would we wean ourselves off oil and other fossil fuels, but we could scrap nuclear power and implement clean, cheap, safe energy that any country or culture could afford. One problem: That might weaken or topple the corporate-government power structure that controls our fuel and energy systems, mass-produces war weapons and keeps a tight rein on the global economy. So how to shine a light on a shadowy consortium that promotes war while fostering scarcity, making gas prices astronomic?

Based in Crozet, Virginia, Greer’s Disclosure Project has convinced hundreds of insiders, including military brass and CIA ops, to defy nondisclosure pacts. They’ve coughed up documents (some still classified) and signed testimonials. Greer’s got it all — in fact, he gave Peter Jennings’s producers access to these bombshell revelations for the ABC special on UFOs that aired last spring. But, as the good doctor found out, you can’t give this stuff to the mainstream media and expect it to air on prime time. “They won’t let us do it,” a senior producer told Greer by phone. “I said,’Who’s They?’” Greer recalls. “And he said ‘Dr. Greer, you know who they are.’ And click, he hung up.”

So why not get these documents to the President of the United States? Been there, done that. “Hillary and Bill spent hours poring over them,” Greer claims a close friend of the Clintons reported, adding that when Clinton took office, he wanted two questions answered: Who killed Jack Kennedy? and What’s going on with the UFOs? It didn’t take long for Clinton to realize, says Greer’s friend, that he had a much better chance of completing his term if he followed his own “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

In 2001, Greer held a press conference at which many witnesses came forward, but it was eclipsed by 9/11. Since then he’s gathered more insiders willing to reveal what the government won’t. So if you’re tired of holding hands with the Saudis, or you think it’s time Earthlings had access to that cool, antigravity technology that allows UFOs to dodge our weapons (most of the time), check out DisclosureProject.org.

“It’s about your pocketbook, not about little green men,” says Greer, who wants to replace fossil fuel and nuclear power with the advanced energy systems used by E.T.’s. Where do you get that? “Just ask the government,”Greer replies. “They’ve had it for 50 years.”

Washington may not want to listen, but we certainly do.

Hustler: When did you see your first UFO?

Dr. Steven M. Greer: Back in the early 1960s, when I was eight or nine. Some neighborhood boys and I saw a disc-shaped, windowless object that hovered, silent, then simply vanished. My parents said, “That’s very nice” and ignored it, but I knew what I’d seen, and it was life-changing.”

What made you leave medicine to focus on the UFO coverup full time?

In 1990 I learned that NATO and the Belgian Air Force were tracking an enormous triangular craft — about 800 feet in diameter — and it reignited my interest. I went there and actually saw the F-16 fighter jet radar tape of a massive UFO hovering, then accelerating at several thousand miles per hour — way outside the envelope of what any man-made object could do.

Have you seen a UFO at close range?

My research team and I had one of these massive triangles come down right over our car. It was vibrating on top and sounded like an enormous transformer — a deep, low-frequency hum. The most dramatic thing we’ve seen is a near-landing in England, in 1992, where we had a 100-foot diameter disc in front of us about ten feet above the ground, signalling and communicating. There were people on board.

Has your team ever established contact with an E.T. Spacecraft?

In the early 1990’s a BBC recording crew picked up a series of beeping tones [from a UFO]. We recorded that, and we fed it back out. For all we know, it’s their trash compactor, but we figure that if they see humans sending their signal back to them, they’ll identify it as communication. In Pensacola, Florida, we signaled [a UFO craft] with high- powered lights and lasers — and they signaled back to us! We have this on videotape. We go to areas where these objects have been seen; so we’re not just sitting in our backyard.

Are UFOs hostile?

There’s not a shred of evidence that these UFOs or the life-forms behind them are a threat or hostile to us. There is a lot of evidence that some rogue military projects have done foolish and dangerous things that have been agressive toward them.

Has the government concealed E.T. vehicles and bodies?

They have several dozen extraterrestrial vehicles and dozens of deceased [E.T.] life-forms of various races. Some are stored in an underground facility near Fort Huachuca in Arizona.

Are secret programs developing E.T. technology?

Yes. We can prove, through the testimony of dozens of witnesses, that there have been covert programs that have studied and figured out the energy and propulsion systems behind UFOs. We’re talking about a whole new type of physics that would enable humans to generate energy from what’s called the “quantum vacuum.”

How does this energy work?

There’s a baseline level of energy that’s in all the space around us — not outer space, but the space in this room. It’s estimated that every cubic centimeter of space here has enough energy to run the entire Earth for a day. This can be tapped. Some scientists are trying to fabricate motors that extract energy from the quantum vacuum, the energy that surrounds us.

You mean the space between atoms?

Correct. The “zero point” energy. I’ve actually seen one of these [devices] working. Of course, the inventor has been threatened. Dr. Eugene Mallove, who was murdered in May [2004], and I were working on this. I’m carrying it forward, but it’s high-risk. [for more on Dr. Mallove and cold-fusion technology, check out PureEnergySystems.com.]

How close are we to harnessing this energy?

We’re fairly close. There are people with “proof of principle” things, but no products for sale yet. Right now we’re working with an inventor who has created energy from this quantum vacuum in the hundreds of watts range — enough to run several things in your home. We can also demonstrate the antigravity effects of high-voltage systems under certain controlled experiments.

An electronic field makes something fairly weightless. We’re working with a man who’s done very advanced antigravity work. The colonel who classified it is willing to declassify it for us to take forward.

You’ve made an object weightless?

We’ve seen this done in a lab. The techniques for tapping this energy have already been fully developed within rogue and covert programs. Lockheed Skunkworks has enormous ships zipping around that are [powered by] antigravity. A lot of the UFOs sighted in the high desert of California and Utah are actually manmade prototypes.

Who else is making these phony UFOs?

The companies involved are SAIC [Science Applications International Corporation], TRW, Northrop, Raytheon and EG&G. We have enormous intelligence on this. I know the buildings where this stuff is going on. This needs to come out so people know the truth.

Does our tax money support these secret programs, or are they privately funded?

Both. There’s private, corporate funding as well as what’s called “black budget” sources. I met with Senator Robert C. Byrd’s staff in 1994. His senior investigator and chief counsel for the Senate Appropriations Committee, for which he was chairman at the time, told me that this stuff was real, [but that] they could not penetrate this black world dealing with UFOs. At that time between $40 billion and $100 billion a year was going into these projects, and they could not trace the money.

Why are these programs kept secret?

Fossil fuel and the nuclear power industries would be made redundant by these technologies that very elegantly extract energy from the quantum vacuum, or “zero point” energy field. We have a $7 trillion part of the world economy dealing with fossil fuels and conventional transportation. If this information comes out - aside from people realizing that we’re not alone in the universe - they’ll quickly see that we don’t need oil, coal or central utilities. It’s all about maintaining the homeostasis and status quo of the world macro-economic and power dynamic.

How would zero-point energy transform the global economy?

It would replace everything. You wouldn’t need oil, but the $30 trillion-a-year global economy would quickly grow to $200 trillion because there’d be clean, sustainable energy, and manufacturing and transportation would be very inexpensive. Eighty percent of the world’s population lives in amazing poverty, and it would lift that. It would revolutionize the planet. People talk about the “peace dividend,” but it’s time for a “space dividend.”

Who’s hiding these advanced energy systems from the public?

The entity that runs this stuff is the world’s largested RICO [Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization]. They used to be called MJ - Majestic - 12 - but the last term I heard was PI-40. It’s not one society. There are sweeping conspiracy theories about the Masons, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission and Counsel of Foreign Relations. I know people in all these entities, and most of them couldn’t find their ass in a well-lighted room. It’s much more prosaic and nuanced than that.

Why do they feel threatened?

It would decentralize power. Right now the centralized financial and oil system is so integrated with the way the world runs. We have testimony about what the agenda is from people who’ve been on the inside.

Who’s in this covert group?

There’s a committee of 200 to 300 people who are on the policy board for this issue. Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who went from head of the National Security Agency to the board of SAIC - which is one of the crown jewels of this covert entity - is a member. So is Admiral Harry Trane. George Bush Sr., Cheney and Rumsfeld are involved, as is the Liechtenstein banking family. The Mormon corporate empire has an enormous interest in this subject; they have much more power than the White house or the Pentagon over this issue. And there are secret cells withing the Vatican.

Have you met with any of these people?

There are factions within this group, and I’ve met with some of the “good guys.” People think that it’s a monolithic conspiracy, but they’re wrong. About 40% to 50% of people involved in these supersecret projects want this stuff out. They know we’re running out of oil, China is industrializing, and the polar ice caps are melting. And they know that if this [advanced E.T. technology] was announced today, it would take ten to 20 years to get it into widespread application to avert an economic, strategic, geopolitical and environmental catastrophe. They see that and want to fix it, but they’re still a minority. They’re more enlightened, but it’s the ruthless ones who rule.

Was CIA Director William Colby involved at some point? Was his “accidental” death in 1996 connected to your work?

Bill Colby was defecting from the supersecret group, and he was assassinated because he was going to transfer some hard technologies - operating devices - and $50 million in funding to us. He knew that with my kind of willpower and connections, I would have gotten that out to the world. He was found floating down the Potomac River the week he was going to meet with my closest friend. They made an example of him.

In fact, Colby’s best friend, a colonel who set up the meeting, said it was absolutely a hit. Even his wife said on CNN, “You know, it was strange, because he would never go out canoeing in a flooded, rain-swollen Potomac River at night and leave the house open and the coffeemaker and the computer on. That’s not like Bill Colby at all.”

Colby’s widow stopped short of calling it murder.

Someone may have said, “Play along, or your children are next.” I mean, these people are thugs.

Has your life been threatened?

[Around the time] Colby was killed, my right-hand assistant, a member of Congress who was working very closely with us and myself all got a deadly type of cancer in the same month — different kinds. I don’t talk about this publicly much because people say, “Come on!” But it absolutely can be done, it was done, and everyone died but me. I was devastated, and it took me 18 months to recover.

You’re saying the UFO-coverup conspirators can target people from a distance and produce cancer?

Yes. Dr. Tom Bearden’s books about the scalar electromagnetic weapons systems explain how longitudinal waveforms can be a carrier wave for this kind of thing. They can get it down to a cell, to your DNA. It’s all resonance. We’ve had this technology since the 1950’s.

Do you have witnesses willing to step forward and reveal what they know about this massive coverup?

We have about 450 military and government “insiders” who have been present during rather undeniable events, including the study of these energy and propulsion systems.

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Witness Testimony Overview - “The Greatest Secret in Modern History” - excerpts from Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History by Steven M. Greer, MD.

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Do you have documents?

We have a number of smoking gun documents, including a wiretap of Marilyn Monroe the day before she died, which has never been declassified. She was threatening to hold a press conference to tell the world what Jack Kennedy had told her during pillow talk about having seen debris from an extraterrestrial vehicle at what the document calls a “secret air base.” She was murdered for this.

Why isn’t the mainstream media covering this?

The biggest problem is the media. If a congressman starts looking into this, they get pilloried and ridiculed by the media. There’s a CIA document [Click here for PDF file of this document.] from 1991 that clearly states that the Agency had contacts or resources at every major media outlet to kill, spin or stop stories. It’s a canard that we have a free press. Also, people can’t wrap their minds around it. A former editor at the Boston Globe told me, “This is just too far-out. And even if it’s true, we’d never run it because it’s associated with tabloids and the lunatic fringe.”

And yet these people put 24/7 coverage on what I call “the blowjob heard ‘round the world.” And I can say that in HUSTLER. The media will spend millions for satellite trucks and onsite reporters to cover freak shows like the O.J. Simpsons or Michael Jackson trials.

Why is the UFO issue so urgent?

It’s about how we live our lives. Aside from cleaning up the environment, it [E.T. technology] extricates us from our dependency on oil, gets us out of that Middle East mess and saves the average American household thousands of dollars a year in heating, utilities and gas for their cars. And, globally, it frees up enormous amounts of economic potential. This would be the tide that raises all ships.

How do you keep going in the face of so much mainstream resistance?

It’s a sort of Promethean challenge. Lawrence Rockefeller once told me, “It’s wonderful that you’re going to do this, and it’s so important. But I’m afraid you’re going to be the court jester, that people won’t take this seriously.” And I said, “Well, we at least have to try.”

How will you publicize your information?

We’re moving on two fronts. One is technology, working through SEAS [Space Energy Access Systems, Inc.] at SeasPower.com. That’s the corporate side for the technology and research we’re doing. The second is identifying funding support for the next phase - a much larger press and media presence with new witnesses, particularly those involved with advanced technologies.

The limiting factor has been funding. If I were to claim aliens had raped me, I’d have a multimillion-dollar movie deal. Doing something serious, there’s hardly any money available. They talk about morality and who’s [having sex with] whom, but real morality is being concerned with these issues.

What do our extraterrestrial visitors want?

I think they’re waiting for us to grow up and quit destroying Earth and each other. That may be the entry requirement for joining the interplanetary club, and we’re just not there yet. That’s the biggest challenge for the human race.

Are you hopeful about the future?

I’m very hopeful. In fact, I have no doubt that the outcome will be peaceful, that these technologies will completely rehabilitate Earth’s fortunes and environment, and eliminate poverty. And it will happen in our lifetimes. But the question is, how much madness has to go on between now and then?

Jean-Noel Bassior has written for Redbook, Parade and other publications. The lifeliong sci-fi fan’s book ‘Space Patrol: Missions of Daring in the Name of Early Television’ has recently been published by McFarland.

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More to follow.


358 posted on 11/20/2007 7:57:21 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; All

http://www.disclosureproject.org/exopoliticsorxenopolitics.htm

EXOPOLITICS OR XENOPOLITICS?

by Steven M. Greer M.D.
Director, The Disclosure Project

http://www.DisclosureProject.org

Copyright 2006

Note: This article may be freely distributed as long as it is reproduced in its entirety.

We have watched with some concern as the emerging area of exo-politics has taken a dangerous and potentially ruinous turn towards rumor, urban-myth speculation and inflammatory xenophobia.

While there are certainly diverse opinions regarding why any given extraterrestrial civilization may wish to visit Earth at this time in our history, recent public comments by Michael Salla have added a virulent strain of fear-based xenophobia, based on the flimsiest of documentation. While I am usually reticent to engage in commentary regarding the opinions espoused by certain personalities, I feel a point has been reached where silence only redounds to the further empowerment of a message of fear, hatred, prejudice – and the unwitting buttressing of the argument for weapons and war in space.

Clearly, more is unknown than known in the vast field of extraterrestrial studies. And at this embryonic stage of human-extraterrestrial relations, there is yet much to learn, explore and discover. But in the past year, Salla, who purports to support peaceful initiatives in this regard, has put forth prejudicial and dangerous characterizations of ET actions – up to and including the ludicrous accusation that a certain tall, white ET race caused the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004! He has maintained that a nefarious and injurious group of ETs have made a secret pact with covert humans – and have a harmful agenda towards the human race. This, and more.

The Disclosure Project has over 450 military, government and corporate insiders who have first-hand knowledge of actual UFO/ET events and projects. We find it odd that not a single one of these insiders can confirm the xenophobic rumors proffered by Salla.

The conflation of urban myth and rumor as fact is a dangerous precedent given what is at stake: The early stages of ET/Human interaction and relations. We cannot afford to recklessly take every rumor and tale - often originating from counter-intelligence operatives who are tasked with either defaming the UFO subject or sowing fear and prejudice - as a point of fact upon which to reach a conclusion.

The facile acceptance of every story as true- no matter how dangerously xenophobic - is irresponsible and can only serve the agenda of those who wish to see the populace dis-informed, panicked and cowed into eventually accepting a military, space-based solution to the ET problem.

Consider: The Disclosure Project, as well as other researchers, have found a multi-decade pattern of hoaxed UFO/ET related events that are clustered around pseudo-contact experiences (also know as abductions) mutilations, vivisections and the like. Numerous, corroborative military and shadowy para-governmental witnesses have testified to actually conducting abductions and mutilations for their psychological warfare value. Once such witness, an Army Ranger involved with special ops stated to me: “You have no idea how many people – including prominent military and political figures – we have abducted and terrified so that they will learn to hate the ET presence and support conflict with them…”

Martin Cannon in the 1980s, and later the book MILAB (Military Abductions) documented the sophisticated use of electronics, ARVs (man-made UFO look-alike craft called alien reproduction vehicles) and ‘stage-craft’ to hoax ET contact events for their psychological warfare value.

Indeed, CIA documents released to us under FOIA, and which appear in ‘Extraterrestrial Contact: The Evidence and Implications’, and ‘Disclosure’, both by this author, discuss using the UFO matter for psychological warfare purposes.

The Canadian top–secret document by Wilbert Smith from the early 1950s explains that the UFO matter is the most secret subject in the US government, exceeding even the secrecy surrounding the development of the hydrogen bomb. Given these facts, is it reasonable to accept as true every scary account circulating in the public, and based on such tales, make sweeping, prejudicial statements regarding this ET race or that?

We must use restraint and caution if we are to avoid being manipulated into the acceptance of another false enemy to unite around and fight. Numerous senior shadow government insiders have independently described to me a concerted effort to dis-inform the public and create the false impression of a threat from space, so that eventually a multi-trillion dollar build-up of weapons in space will be accepted by the masses.

Such propaganda is nothing new. Every military power that has wished to further engage in warfare has first demonized the enemy. Hitler and his minions expertly demonized Jews, gay people and others so that people would passively accept the ‘final solution’. The virulent, negative portrayal of such groups was essential to the creation of a supposed enemy to be dealt with violently.

Today, we see racist appellations applied to certain alleged ET groups – The Grays! The Reptilians! The Tall White Ones! Must we go down this tired, dirty path again? Must we replay the sordid history of human racism, prejudice, and xenophobia as we begin our first steps towards the stars?

No. We must not. We must restrain our lower fears and tame our own demons – and look with the eye of truth at the cosmos around us, and ask ourselves this: Who would benefit from such fearsome portrayals of ET life? Where might such a shadowy group wish to lead us? How much information – bandied about so cavalierly as fact - may actually be sophisticated counter-intelligence disinformation designed to sow the seeds of hate and fear – thus justifying weapons in space.

The usual suspects – those who thrive on enormous concentrated wealth and power - would like to unite the world - but not in peace. They wish to unite and control us not for that good future that assuredly awaits humanity. Rather, they wish to control through fear and war – a war between worlds – the final master-play of power consolidation where all of humanity may be stampeded into a unified opposition to some – maybe only one - ET race. And by so doing, amass the ultimate global control, through fear spreading like wildfire amongst the people.

Dr. Von Braun on his death-bed warned of such a plan. He warned us that after the Cold War, there would be ‘rogue nations and nations of concern’; and that this would be followed by global terrorism; and that this would be followed by a threat from space – the ultimate trump-card of fear, whereby the entirety of humanity could be united to, as the movie ‘Independence Day’ put it, “kick alien butt!”

There is no way to assess an ET agenda without first grasping the covert human agenda. We cannot discern what is real and what is Memorex – what is ET and what is pseudo-ET disinformation, unless we penetrate the halls of smoke and mirrors that is the vast shadow government’s propaganda machine.

It is not easy. It takes enormous patience, perseverance, diligence and care.

But it is worth it - for to do otherwise is to wittingly or unwittingly make exo-politics an arm of the propaganda war machine.

We must do better than this. We must restrain our fears and prejudices and avoid the dissemination of negative and fear-inducing stereotypes, based on anecdotal tales and counter-intelligence programs. We must investigate fully the technological and psychological capabilities of those who are behind human UFO secrecy - and learn to discern the false from the real.

CSETI (The Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence - www.CSETI.org) which is the parent organization for The Disclosure Project (www.DisclosureProject.org) has been sending expeditions around the world for 16 years to make contact with ET peoples. We have never been harmed. We have never been threatened. We have never been afraid. Thousands of people over the course of hundreds of expeditions, have interacted with these UFOs – and with the beings on-board them.

Through all of this, we have only found ET people who want to understand and help us. They are waiting for us to join them in space - as a people at peace. Then and only then will we find the arms of the Cosmos wide open, ready to embrace a peaceful and enlightened humanity, which will then travel freely among the stars.

We are proposing that those concerned with a constructive, mature approach to the emerging ET/Human relationship form a new Council on Inter-Planetary Relations. As a council of concerned citizens, let us explore how to best further a peaceful relationship with these cosmic visitors. Will you join us?

Steven M. Greer MD
2 May 2006, Albemarle County Virginia


359 posted on 11/20/2007 7:58:45 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Proof people !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5jmbSjWkw
360 posted on 11/20/2007 8:00:05 AM PST by Scythian
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