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Incandescent bulb’s future dims
MSN ^ | 11-11-2007 | MSN

Posted on 11/11/2007 7:20:25 PM PST by Westlander

If U.S. lawmakers have their way, the lights may soon go out on Thomas Edison's greatest invention -- the incandescent light bulb. The 19th-century inventor brought illumination to the world's fingertips, but according to Congress, his invention isn't efficient enough for an age anxious about energy supplies.

"Only 10% of the power used by today's incandescent bulbs is emitted as light, while the other 90% is released as heat," Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., said when she introduced her legislation to ban standard light bulbs.

To eliminate this waste, Harman has proposed legislation that would effectively eliminate incandescent light bulbs from store shelves nationwide as early as 2012.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 110th; bigbrother; bulb; edison; energy; envirowhackos; ida; incandescent; janeharman; light; lightbulbnazis; lightbulbs; lightpollution; nannystate; stalinisttactics
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To: Tarpon

Probably a few years away from them being economical for most. Tough to say though.


341 posted on 11/12/2007 5:15:07 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Westlander
Was this the apocalypse the Mayan’s predicted in their calender many centuries ago? The death of the Incandescent light bulb in 2012?
342 posted on 11/12/2007 5:20:53 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: rb22982

Wonder how many people have died due to radiation from ionization type smoke detectors. That evil americium-241 everyone has hanging over their bed. The horror!


343 posted on 11/12/2007 5:27:21 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander
Don’t like these for reading lights. I do have a few in lamps with shades, but in hallways and in my library it just is a bit to harsh.
344 posted on 11/12/2007 5:28:35 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Westlander

“For the love of God! Just put on a sweater and turn down the thermostat! Don’t you people realize I’ve screwed up the economy and all relations in the ME to the point where this is necessary?!?” ~ Jimmy Carter, Circa 1976


345 posted on 11/12/2007 5:37:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
OMG....do you think that trash doesn’t go all in one place eventually??

It doesn't go to the landfill if that is what you mean.

346 posted on 11/12/2007 5:37:49 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Democrats In Control! (Where's my friggin' free stuff?))
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To: HamiltonJay
CFL’s are not “INSTANT ON AT FULL LUMINENCE”.
All CFL’s have a WARM UP CURVE, ALL OF THEM...

This is true - I have several CF bulbs myself, notably in 7 ceiling fixtures in the basement, a couple of outdoor lights, and in various lamps. They are on within 2 seconds (unless voltage is low at which time they come on slower). But, they are NOT to full brilliance for a good half minute or so. It's as if they start at 50% output and then slowly rise to 100% over many seconds.

Not a problem in the situations in which I use them, but I won't put them in the bathroom or other areas where I have specific decorative needs for standard light bulbs. They certainly have their place, and there's no reason to avoid using them in those places.

347 posted on 11/12/2007 5:44:40 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: rb22982

I think it will be under 10 years.

Today you can get some killer LED flashlights.


348 posted on 11/12/2007 5:48:20 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: telstar1
...the damn things burn out after 6-8 mos. of continuous use; just like their cheap, 4 foot long cousins do out in the shop lights...

I've experienced that with a few off-brands, such as 'Lights of America'. But when I've used name-brand bulbs like GE, Sylvania, or Philipps, they tend to last several years. My outdoor light at my old house had a 15 watt Philipps CF bulb and it lasted about 4 years of being on from dusk to dawn, winter and summer.

349 posted on 11/12/2007 5:50:02 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
“I did see the CO2 detectors for sale, but I’m not sure why I need one...”

Wouldn't a CO detector be of more use? CO is carbon monoxide, an oderless, colorless gas that is a direct byproduct of combustion. It displaces oxygenated air and serves to starve the body of vital oxygen.

350 posted on 11/12/2007 5:52:54 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: Westlander

Here in California, we are the progressive leaders of America.

Today: ban incandescent light bulbs.

Tomorrow: ban flatulance.

Next week: all crime to be banned.

When our current “Republican” governor seeks re-election, we will have successfully improved on the old Soviet election model.

In the old USSR, they offered one Party, two candidates.

In Calif, we can offer one Party, two candidates, but we just label one Dem a “Repub” and the other Dem candidate, a “Democrat”.

Clever huh? Fools the voting majority (easily enough) every time.


351 posted on 11/12/2007 6:08:24 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: Westlander; cogitator

I guess I’ll start slowly stockpiling incandescents. My mom is not exactly in the best of health (diabetes), so I don’t want these CFLs around the house until she passes away (which, hopefully, won’t be anytime soon).

More nanny-state arrogance masquerading as providing a better world for our cheelrun.


352 posted on 11/12/2007 7:17:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Aussiebabe

They have the color right, the last batch lasted about 3-6 months- it was a three pack. I guess I need to keep reciepts for lightbulbs now..


353 posted on 11/12/2007 8:28:33 PM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Unassuaged

Your not turning them on & off like an incadescent, are you? If you turn a CFL on, leave it on for at least 1/2 hour. Mine are going into their 5th year and I do use them 4-6 hours daily.


354 posted on 11/12/2007 8:58:06 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Red Badger

LED lamps are still too expensive for general use. Their main market right now is for low voltage applications, off the grid, vehicles, boats, in places where power limitations outweigh the much higher cost.

LED lamps are good for point illumination and not so good for diffuse lighting. But LED lighting will become more widespread as the cost comes down.


355 posted on 11/12/2007 9:08:02 PM PST by Pelham (Dubya, best President Mexico has ever had.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Try a Verilux or Ott-Lite full spectrum bulb, you’ll find them far superior to incandescent.


356 posted on 11/12/2007 9:16:28 PM PST by Pelham (Dubya, best President Mexico has ever had.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

So what if I break one? Mercury everywhere?


357 posted on 11/12/2007 9:20:43 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: Aussiebabe; Westlander

“Thanks, it looks like most of these negative comments are coming simply from a lack of knowledge. Also, we don’t notice any significant “warm up” time with our bulbs. They come on instantly without any flickering.”


You think this thread is goofy, I am a service plumber and when I read plumbing threads I see the guys inventing all kinds of impossible tales.


358 posted on 11/12/2007 9:29:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

“So what if I break one? “


This is from the GE link posted in post 298, it says to pick it up and throw it in the garbage.

http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/faqs/cfl.htm#1

6. What should I do if I break a CFL bulb?

Fluorescent lamps contain mercury. Mercury at atmospheric pressure is a silver colored liquid that tends to form balls. Mercury is a hazardous substance. When one lamp is broken, the best thing to do is to wear chemical resistant glove to clean it up. The gloves can be vinyl, rubber, PVC, or neoprene. The gloves you buy in the supermarket for household cleaning are sufficient. The gloves protect your skin from absorbing mercury and from getting cut by the glass. The remains of one lamp can be disposed as normal waste since the amount of mercury is small. However, for future reference, when large quantities of lamps are being disposed you must follow your state and the federal regulation for disposing of mercury-containing lamps.


359 posted on 11/12/2007 9:34:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: ansel12

Note to self—Find article stating Communist’s will mandate zero flush toilets as a Christmas gift for anse112.


360 posted on 11/12/2007 9:43:41 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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