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Despite Hillary's recent gaffes, Giuliani has lost significant ground in all three polls.

He has no chance of winning the general election. It's time to find an electable nominee that can unite the base.

1 posted on 11/10/2007 10:35:21 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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Any Democratic candidate would have a big lead in the polls before the general election starts. Dukakis had a big lead in 1988 and it vanished as soon as Americans became aware he was just a liberal.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/10/2007 10:37:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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He has no chance of winning the general election. It's time to find an electable nominee that can unite the base.

There is no such animal.

And aren't you popping the champaign? He's no contest for your girl.

3 posted on 11/10/2007 10:45:29 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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Time to throw Rudy under the bus!!! Long over due!


4 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:02 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (Fred is now toast since meet the press.. I am now left with either Mittens, Huck,Hunter or McCain)
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I thought I saw a poll where 46 to 48 % of the people polled said they would not vote for Hillary under any circumstances. So much for that poll.
6 posted on 11/10/2007 10:50:32 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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Rudy cannot beat Hilary. Dem-lite won’t beat a real dem. We need a real alternative. A pro-gay, pro-abort, dress wearing, and pro-illegal candidate isn’t a great alternative.


7 posted on 11/10/2007 10:53:17 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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I’m sorry but if Americans would rather vote
for Hillary the pathological liar Jesus himself
could not defeat her.

I guess Ron Paul is our only salvation.


8 posted on 11/10/2007 10:57:02 AM PST by ChiMark
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“Despite Hillary’s recent gaffes, Giuliani has lost significant ground in all three polls.
He has no chance of winning the general election. It’s time to find an electable nominee that can unite the base.”

You guys are making WAY too much of this poll. Click the link. This poll was done among “American adults,” not likely voters or even registered voters. To get an accurate read on which direction the election might go, you need to poll those voters who self-identify as being likely to vote, not just poll any old schmo who answers the phone, who may not even be registered to vote, who might not even be a citizen of the country!

Rasmussen on the other hand which polls LIKELY voters, shows Rudy beating Hillary by 2 points. That is a much more accurate and meaningful poll than these 2 that just asks anyone who answers the phone.

Besides, for all those saying this shows Giuliani has to be thrown under the bus, it’s not as if any polls are showing the other Republicans performing better than Rudy against Hillary. So what’s the logic here? I think it’s interesting how so many of us poo poo polls, until they enable us to say “See! Rudy sucks!” which really these 2 worthless polls do not allow us to say.


11 posted on 11/10/2007 11:01:18 AM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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“Despite Hillary’s recent gaffes, Giuliani has lost significant ground in all three polls.
He has no chance of winning the general election. It’s time to find an electable nominee that can unite the base.”

You guys are making WAY too much of this poll. Click the link. This poll was done among “American adults,” not likely voters or even registered voters. To get an accurate read on which direction the election might go, you need to poll those voters who self-identify as being likely to vote, not just poll any old schmo who answers the phone, who may not even be registered to vote, who might not even be a citizen of the country!

Rasmussen on the other hand which polls LIKELY voters, shows Rudy beating Hillary by 2 points. That is a much more accurate and meaningful poll than these 2 that just asks anyone who answers the phone.

Besides, for all those saying this shows Giuliani has to be thrown under the bus, it’s not as if any polls are showing the other Republicans performing better than Rudy against Hillary. So what’s the logic here? I think it’s interesting how so many of us poo poo polls, until they enable us to say “See! Rudy sucks!” which really these 2 worthless polls do not allow us to say.


12 posted on 11/10/2007 11:01:44 AM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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Our economy is rather erratic right now, and I think there are many things which will be held against the right (despite any reasonable explanation). Rudy’s the wrong choice in any case.

I agree. The best chose is to unite the base....


14 posted on 11/10/2007 11:06:09 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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I’m sure this wil be very comforting to the beast on the way down.


15 posted on 11/10/2007 11:07:54 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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It really kind of depends on the internals of the polls. What if they oversampled blacks and Hispanics? What if they oversampled women? Without knowing the composition of people they sampled, we don’t really know if the numbers are accurate. And few of the pollsters ever release these numbers - probably because they’re afraid of having their polls picked apart.


17 posted on 11/10/2007 11:10:54 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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"...the Marist College Institute..."

Wow. I did a double take when I first read that as,"...the Marxist College Institute..."

19 posted on 11/10/2007 11:15:48 AM PST by 386wt (Be free and don't die!)
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OK, who?


20 posted on 11/10/2007 11:16:52 AM PST by maineman (BC Eagle fan)
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Don’t trust CNN/Opinion polls, they are Clinton operatives/Gupta the corruptor.


22 posted on 11/10/2007 11:20:24 AM PST by Inge C (,)
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I am not voting for either of these idiots.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 11:45:16 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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I don’t like Rudy but these polls are less tahn worthless. Any poll showing Hillary winning among men is garbage of the third kind. Hillary will lose the male vote by 10-15 points.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 11:49:22 AM PST by jwalsh07
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Other polling shows that more than 50% of the population would not vote for Clinton at any time or under any circumstances. So how does she get 50% in this Marist poll?


27 posted on 11/10/2007 11:52:06 AM PST by EDINVA
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I do not see any GOP beating Hillary at this point. Rudy is not my candidate of choice, but I do not see another GOP candidate that is doing that well. None of these candidates is without serious flaws, but some are more flawed than others. I will predict that no matter which candidate receives the party’s nomination, there are going to be a significant number of Republicans that will not support him. At some point in time, people are going to have to decide whether any GOP candidate is better than Hillary.


29 posted on 11/10/2007 12:09:25 PM PST by Ferox
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Thats fine,polls can state that, but Neither will be on the Ballots in November!!


31 posted on 11/10/2007 12:43:22 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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The odds are small, but there’s a chance both hillary and Rudy will not be their party’s nominees. If Hillary loses in Iowa, I think she’s in big trouble.


32 posted on 11/10/2007 12:43:38 PM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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