Next Kennewick Man Will Need Protection

Tri-city Herald ^ | 11-7-2007

[blam]

Skeletons over about 6,000 years ago look nothing like the Native Americans/American Indians of today and are not the same people.

The oldest skeletons found in the Americas are believed to be mostly related to the Ainu of Japan.

[blam]

GGG Ping.

[Hawk1976]

Humans are relatively mobile creatures and like most pack animals will push each other out of areas. The idea that the “native americans” were first is absurd. Their ancestors pushed someone else out.

[frogjerk]

What amount of time must past before Grave Robbing becomes Archeology?

[muawiyah]

That's the "next to the oldest", not the "oldest". Remember, the Emeshi and Yakut (relatives of the so-called Ainu) didn't arrive here until about 9,500 years ago. There are OLDER skeletons than that in Mexico, and there are human artifacts (Clovis points) in strata going back to 14,000 years ago.

It's now believed these items were left by EUROPEANS.

[blam]

Vintage Skulls

"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas."

"Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

[blam]

Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)

[Red Badger]

THOUSANDS..................

[Red Badger]

We’ve ALWAYS had a problem with illegal immigration..................

[blam]

Iberia, Not Siberia

[mtbopfuyn]

Surely by now ol’ Kenny has found his way to the happy hunting grounds and doesn’t care what anyone does with his bodily remains.

[Wallace T.]

A major element of PC ideology is the belief that Europeans came to the New World illegitimately, as conquerors and killers, destroying the native peoples and cultures of the Western Hemisphere, and imposing Western civilization, hierarchical, Christian, and exploitative, upon supposedly egalitarian, animistic, and environmentally friendly people. This ideology comes through in history textbooks and in the entertainment media, in cartoons like Pocahontas or movies like Dancing with Wolves. If it could be proven that the Northeast Asians who are commonly called Indians were themselves an aggressive, usurping race who wiped out earlier inhabitants who had originated in Europe or Polynesia, their claim to victimhood and government subsidies would be less valid.

[longtermmemmory]

actually in this case and more it is the indians.

By concealing the fact the american indians were not in fact first OR alone, their casinos go poof in a legal smoke.

This is not about archeology OR grave robbing, this is about profits.

Don’t forget about oil in resources on indian reservations.
Not bad for a nomadic peoples with no concept of property. (remember the indians thought THEY were cheating the dutch)

[ClearCase_guy]

their claim to victimhood and government subsidies would be less valid.

But do you think I might end up with a casino of my own?

[Perchant]

It's now believed these items were left by EUROPEANS.

It seems to me that science should now have the tools to prove any European component in the genetic makeup of America's "natives". There would be a specific genetic marker shared with some modern day Europeans that wouldn't be shared with any Asians.

[Joe_Vissarion]

I always find it funy that the same libs who whine and bitch that the Europeans illegally stole this land from the native indians are the ones who want an unstaunched flow of Mexicans to invade us with no strings attached. If not wanting illegal immigrants to invade us makes us racists and xenophobes, then what do you call the indians who constantly complain that our ancestors stole their land?
-Joe

[Verginius Rufus]

The National Geographic channel last night had a program about prehistoric Americans, and an expert on fossil skulls regarded Kennewick Man as extremely important for his effort to explain the gap between the kinds of skulls they find for the earliest humans in the New World and the skull types of modern Native Americans.

Unfortunately the Army Corps of Engineers, by burying the site, prevented scientists from learning much more from Kennewick Man that could have been of great value.

[blam]

mtDNA haplogroup X: An ancient link between Europe/Western Asia and North America?

"To date, haplogroup X has not been unambiguously identified in Asia, raising the possibility that some Native American founders were of Caucasian ancestry."

[squarebarb]

thanks for the posting, Blam.

Do you hae a link to that recent map that showed DNA tracing of Amerindian ancestor crossing and then re-crossing the Bering Strait?

I forgot to put it on ‘Favorites’.

It is clear and obvious there were many migrations. The Maya of Yucatan peninusla are very different from the Plains Indians.

Plains people and the Woodland peoples must have more of the X and A2 lines.

I am assuming by ‘Ainu’ you mean the robust B lines.

[usurper]

The oldest skeletons found in the Americas are believed to be mostly related to the Ainu of Japan.

They were Irish I tell you, now give me a casino.