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THEY HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING (Bogus GDP, inflation numbers)
Financial Sense University ^ | November 1, 2007 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 11/01/2007 7:01:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee

Yesterday, as the dollar fell to new record lows and oil and gold prices surged to new highs, Wall Street remained fixated on wholly meaningless government data that managed to report the lowest inflation in the last half century. These bizarre numbers were integral in allowing the Commerce Department to report 3.9% annualized GDP growth in the third quarter, which was heralded by the bulls as evidence that a resilient U.S. economy had shrugged off the problems in the housing and mortgage markets. However, the government’s ability to make “economic growth” magically appear is based purely on statistical finesse.

To arrive at this rate, the government had to assume that inflation during the quarter ran at an annualized rate of .8% (that’s less than 1%). That is the lowest rate of inflation used to calculate U.S. GDP since the Eisenhower administration. With oil priced at almost $100 per barrel, gold futures trading over $800 per ounce, the dollar hitting record lows, and the Fed printing money like it is going out of style, the government has the nerve to claim that current inflation is the lowest it has been in half a century. Unbelievable!

Just in case there is some confusion, the government adjusts nominal GDP gains using the GDP deflator, which represents the inflation rate during the time period being measured. This is done to strip inflation out of the GDP calculation so that only real growth gets counted: not nominal gains that result purely from inflation.

The consensus estimate for 3rd quarter GDP growth was 3.4%. The reason we beat that number was that the government adjusted the nominal 4.7% gain by a mere .8%. Had the government assumed a higher rate of inflation, say 2.6% (identical to the rate used to deflate second quarter GDP,) the 3rd quarter gain would have been only 2.1%, well shy of the consensus forecast. My guess is that inflation is actually running at an annualized rate closer to 10%. Therefore using a more honest deflator, the U.S. economy is actually contracting, which would explain the recent anecdotal evidence provided by various economic polls, voter dissatisfaction and consumer sentiment numbers. In fact, if one simply measures U.S. GDP using gold or any other currency, it is clear that we are already in a recession.

Similar illusions are created in other numbers, such as retail sales, corporate earnings, and stock prices, which are all rising merely as a result of actual inflation being higher than the official reports. For example, higher retail sales reflect consumers paying higher prices for the products that they buy. They may in fact be buying less stuff, but are paying more for it. Further, part of the gains result from tourists using their appreciated foreign currencies to buy products cheaper here than they can in the own countries. I have heard about Canadians checking into U.S. hotels with empty suitcases, crossing the border to indulge in weekend shopping sprees.

Corporate earnings, particularly those of multi-nationals, are padded as their foreign currency denominated earnings translate into more dollars when those earnings are repatriated. However, such gains are illusions, as companies merely earn more dollars of diminished value for the goods they sell. The actual volume of exports does not necessarily improve much, as evidenced by weak industrial production and manufacturing employment. When those additional debased dollars are paid out as dividends, they confer no real increase in global purchasing power to shareholders.

Similarly, just as inflation causes prices to rise for goods and services it causes stock prices to rise as well. Though such gains may be less than the actual increase in the cost of living, as long as the government gets away with using bogus CPI numbers which fail to fully reflect inflation, Wall Street takes credit for nominal gains as if they were real.

However, as ridiculous as the phony GDP number was, yesterday’s biggest joke was a report on global competitiveness put out by the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, which ranked the U.S. economy as the world’s most competitive. To arrive at this conclusion, the forum has obliterated the obvious under a mountain of theory. In determining country rankings, the WEF weighed strengths in their "12 Pillars of Competitiveness", including: institutions, infrastructure, macroeconomic stability, health and primary education, higher education and training, goods market efficiency, labor market efficiency, financial market sophistication, technological readiness, market size, business sophistication and innovation. Completely ignored however are the measurable results of competitiveness, notably a trade surplus and a strong currency.

It is as if the WEF decided to judge a weight loss contest without using a scale, by instead focusing only on mental attitude, dedication, perseverance, and nutritional education! As a result the prize is awarded to the fattest contestant. Based on the empirical evidence of a gargantuan trade deficit, staggering global indebtedness, and a declining currency, the United States is clearly not the most competitive economy in the world.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheories; gdp; goldbuggerer; inflation; moonbat; nutjob; paranoiawilldestroya; paulbearer
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1 posted on 11/01/2007 7:01:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Hydroshock

Econoping


2 posted on 11/01/2007 7:01:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Econo double speak.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 7:07:25 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: Travis McGee
United States is clearly not the most competitive economy in the world.

So who is?
Cuba, Iran, perhaps Venezuela?

4 posted on 11/01/2007 7:13:00 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan; RockinRight; NVDave; Neidermeyer; Travis McGee; sbMKE; ..

Economy/Credit/Housing Issues Ping List

If you want on or off this list let me know


5 posted on 11/01/2007 7:13:15 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Travis McGee

Gibberish. Shiff is using polls and “feelings” of people and not economic data. No matter what he believes about our economy as a whole, it’s still better than most, if not all, other countries.


6 posted on 11/01/2007 7:15:52 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t know about the WEF global ranks, but our own government’s reporting about domestic inflation rates are a joke...of course they may have to lie because of those inflation-indexed bonds...What a web they wove.


7 posted on 11/01/2007 7:21:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Ron in Acreage

Don’t know about you but my anecdotal experience suggests there’s far more inflation in prices than the .8% in the latest report.


8 posted on 11/01/2007 7:23:34 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Travis McGee
My guess is that inflation is actually running at an annualized rate closer to 10%. Therefore...

Not to say I necessarily take numbers in government reports at face value, but this rebuttal is lame. On one side we've got a claim, presumably put forth by some economist working for the government (not "the government"), that inflation was 0.8%. Is that correct? I have no idea. I do know, however, that saying "my guess is" and then pulling a number out of the clear blue sky, is not a counterargument.

Further, part of the gains result from tourists using their appreciated foreign currencies to buy products cheaper here than they can in the own countries.

Which....what...."doesn't count"?

Corporate earnings, particularly those of multi-nationals, are padded as their foreign currency denominated earnings translate into more dollars when those earnings are repatriated.

That's right, I suppose. If you owed a company in yen rather than dollars you are sad, and the company is happy, because they have earned more. So what? I suppose this is another thing I am supposed to think "doesn't count"?

However, such gains are illusions, as companies merely earn more dollars of diminished value for the goods they sell.

No, the gains (from being paid in an appreciating foreign currency) are real. The sale of goods domestically, in dollars, is a separate issue. But let us note that this guy hasn't made the argument he's trying to here, either. True, maybe the company is getting more dollars for the goods they sell, but those dollars are worth so much less that overall the company has lost out.

But that's not the only possibility. Maybe while the dollar is down the company is selling more at a pace that outweighs that. Or maybe the two effects actually balance. Again, an actual argument is required to settle the issue, not merely waving one's hands and saying "my guess is 10%".

The actual volume of exports does not necessarily improve much, as evidenced by weak industrial production and manufacturing employment.

What does "actual volume of exports" have to do with anything in the first place? Thought we were talking about GDP, not, er, GDV.

When those additional debased dollars are paid out as dividends, they confer no real increase in global purchasing power to shareholders.

Again, an argument is needed for this. Maybe dividends go up at the same time in a way that balances or outweighs the inflation. Anyway, there's more to GDP than dividends so I'm not sure what he's trying to prove exactly.

To arrive at this conclusion, the forum has obliterated the obvious under a mountain of theory.

Yes, another instance where some stupidhead insisted on using formulas and data ("a mountain of theory") instead of just saying "my guess is" because that's "the obvious".

[...]Completely ignored however are the measurable results of competitiveness, notably a trade surplus and a strong currency. [...] Based on the empirical evidence of a gargantuan trade deficit, staggering global indebtedness, and a declining currency, the United States is clearly not the most competitive economy in the world.

I'll give him half a point here, only because I don't know what the heck "competitive" is supposed to mean in the context of an "economy". Maybe the U.S. is, or is not, the "most competitive economy" - I don't know, and I don't care.

But the real question is who is this guy, and why are his arguments so weak?

9 posted on 11/01/2007 7:24:43 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Travis McGee

“Further, part of the gains result from tourists using their appreciated foreign currencies to buy products cheaper here than they can in the own countries. I have heard about Canadians checking into U.S. hotels with empty suitcases, crossing the border to indulge in weekend shopping sprees.”

How dare them! How HORRIBLE! How could they do this?

My inflation ravaged 401K is killing me. 30% growth year to date just sucks. If I don’t start getting 50% return, I’m going to tell those pollsters that the economy is going to hell.


10 posted on 11/01/2007 7:28:28 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: saganite
Don’t know about you but my anecdotal experience suggests there’s far more inflation in prices than the .8% in the latest report.

You have anecdotal experience of buying a representative basket of things at the beginning of the third quarter and then buying a comparable basket of things again at the end of the third quarter, and noticing a significant price difference?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say: No, you don't.

11 posted on 11/01/2007 7:28:46 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Travis McGee

The libs are in denial. If you live in Michigan, NY, or Ohio, then yes, things look pretty bleak and you can’t believe the numbers. But the rest of us are doing pretty well. Even here in Florida, where we’re reminded daily that we have the second worst foreclosure problem in the nation (behind CA), the economy is doing OK. It’s just certain sectors, where people made bad choices, that are hurting.


12 posted on 11/01/2007 7:29:01 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Travis McGee

You can make our economy appear to be doing whatever you wish if you are trained in statistical finesse.


13 posted on 11/01/2007 7:30:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: chaos_5

China, most of the country is no wage slave labor.


14 posted on 11/01/2007 7:32:32 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t thinkI’m as pessimistic as the author, but he is absolutely right in at least one sense.

Measuring inflation in nominal dollars is meaningless when our currency is being flushed down the bowl by our central bank and our profligate spending. We need to raise interest rates by about 1.25 points, and instead we lowered them today. If there has ever been a time for tight monetary policy, it’s now, and instead we’re literally printing money. I could not be more pissed off at the people who are supposedly ‘’managing’’ our economy.


15 posted on 11/01/2007 7:33:08 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

You’re going out on the wrong limb then. And why would you doubt that I’ve seen higher prices on food and fuel? Are you just whistling past the graveyard? Or maybe it’s wishful thinking on your part since you want to believe those growth numbers.


16 posted on 11/01/2007 7:33:20 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite
I save every receipt from everything. If an item I purchased is to be used in my biz, I yellow hilite it or circle the item and the price.
I’ve noted the container sizes have shrunk yet the price remains similar.
I’m putting inflation, based on a market basket of stuff I buy every week at about 15% to 17%in the last 12 months. Obviously, this does not include fuel or housing so anyone can take exception to it.
17 posted on 11/01/2007 7:33:30 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Travis McGee

Inflation is low because housing prices are coming down (read: deflation) and U.S. exports are up 1/3.

Oil is up, that’s true, but oil is a smaller part of our GDP than is housing.


18 posted on 11/01/2007 7:34:04 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Turbopilot
I don’t think I’m as pessimistic as the author...

The author isn't pessimistic. He makes this crap up to shill more gold. He doesn't believe it at all.

19 posted on 11/01/2007 7:36:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Here we go, Steelers. Here we go!)
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To: Hydroshock

On, please.


20 posted on 11/01/2007 7:38:02 PM PDT by TEEHEE
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