Thompson talks of daughter who died

Yahoo News / AP ^ | 10/22/2007 | LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

TAMPA, Fla. - Republican Fred Thompson sidestepped a question about the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case last month, saying he didn't remember the details. On Monday he said he's uncomfortable discussing it because of his own daughter's death.

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"And this will probably be the last time I ever address it."

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He added: "It should be decided by families. The federal government and the state government, too — except for the court system — ought to stay out of it, as far as I'm concerned."

[Sun]

My point is that while I don’t know what’s in your heart, God does.

It is the government’s DUTY to protect it’s citizens.

Small government, YES.

No government, NO.

Are you a liberatarian? I’m not. I’m a conservative.

btw, read the 5th and 14th amendment sometime.

And no, a husband does NOT have the right to kill his wife. We are not living under radical Islam in this country, where husbands can kill their wives.

Now try to use you own common sense. When a man sues for malpractice, and gets the $$ because he SAYS he will take care of his wife for the rest of his life, but AFTER he receives the $$ “remembers” that his wife would not want to live like that, do you think the man was lying?

[Sun]

I wish Fred would make his position clear.

In the first presidential debate, both Hunter and Brownback said it was right for Congress to try to save Terri.

Rudy wanted to leave it up to the courts. It was the COURTS that gave us Roe.

[Sun]

My post #142 gives the positions of various presidential candidates on whether or not Congress should have tried to save Terri.

[Sun]

“they will be embarrassed at how little they know from other than far left perspective.”

That’s the problem. They don’t know the facts and are unwilling to learn.

[Sun]

“T’wit was a world class conservative, and we know how he would deal with the detractors here.”

No one was better.

“T’wit is here in muse as he has passed us the baton.”

And we will carry it proudly.

I never knew that T’wit was so close to the most famous people in our times. He was such a modest person, but so very, very intelligent.

[DelphiUser]

Culture of death or culture of life? Where should the United States strive to be? All other talk is rehashing, I agree, but it's about what this country should strive to be. Culture of death or a culture of life?

Hi, BB. Fred's got some 'splainin' to do. He's running for high office. He adores his new children but will not discuss his deceased daughter and knew little about Terri. Why not?

Please define Culture of Death and Culture of life, it means so many things to so many people, if we are to have an intelligent discussion, I need to know what these terms mean to you.

When you say "Culture of Life" that means Life at all costs, endlessly resuscitating people who don't want to be resuscitated and it is an ugly picture that comes to my mind.

When you say "Culture of Death" I picture cleansing of the Genome by killing all who have the slightest undesirable genetic trait, the old, of course, the infirm, and any unwanted child could be terminated at any time up until adulthood.

I subscribe to neither of the above, so what do you mean.

Labels: a quick way to marginalize someone without having to deal with them as a person with a brain.

[DelphiUser]

My point is that while I don’t know what’s in your heart, God does.

I am comfortable with that, and I believe it too (I was hoping there was a point in here some where...)

It is the government’s DUTY to protect it’s citizens.

From Armies and navies of foreign powers, yes, from Poverty, and the results of their choices, no.

Small government, YES.

No government, NO.

Are you a liberatarian? I’m not. I’m a conservative.

Some of the things the liberatarians speak of are indeed attractive, but unfortunately, they are not in touch with reality for they are unattainable in todays' political climate, other things they teach are just plain Waco (IMHO)

I am a registered republican, and have been so since I turned 18.

btw, read the 5th and 14th amendment sometime.

I carry a Copy of the Constitution in my PDA with me all the time, it is a beautiful document, for one thing it shows how much we have dumbed down english in the intervening years.

Amendment V

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Amendment XIV

SECTION 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

SECTION 2.

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, [being twenty-one years of age,]* and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

SECTION 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicialoffi cer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

SECTION 4.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

SECTION 5.

The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. *Changed by Section 1 of the 26th Amendment

(Amendment XXVI SECTION 1
B The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

In Terri's case there was due process of law. You disagree with the outcome, fine, you have that right, but there were many court cases, in my opinion too many.

And no, a husband does NOT have the right to kill his wife. We are not living under radical Islam in this country, where husbands can kill their wives.

He did not walk in and plunge a knife in her chest while she was screaming for help. make is sound as gruesome as you can, but the fact is she could not feed herself and her brain had deteriorated to the point that she did not know what was happening. They performed an Autopsy specifically so people would know if they had made the right choice.

Go, read one of the descriptions, and stop being willfully ignorant and emotional.

Now try to use you own common sense. When a man sues for malpractice, and gets the $$ because he SAYS he will take care of his wife for the rest of his life, but AFTER he receives the $$ “remembers” that his wife would not want to live like that, do you think the man was lying?

I was not in the courtroom, I don't presume to judge on facts not in evidence, such as demeanor, supporting documentation, etc. The judge in the case made a determination according to the law, all sorts of people tried all sorts of things and the law was on his side. Don't like the law, work for a change, you have that right. However, expect me and people who have seen the dark hole that can be living beyond when you want to die will be fighting for our right not to be kept alive artificially past a point of our determining.

I have been told repeatedly on this thread, "It's not about you" well, it could have been and I would want the right to die without being tortured first. some of the folks here would deny me that right, thus, it becomes "about me".

[outlawcam]

Where does he think courts get the authority and basis for their rulings, if federal and state governments ought not be involved? Thompson’s statement makes absolutely no sense.

[floriduh voter]

It’s about the slippery slope and it’s that simple.

[DelphiUser]

It’s about the slippery slope and it’s that simple.

It is a slippery slope alright, down hill both ways (grin) it just depends on what your focus is, I see yours, you don't seem to see mine.

Oh well.

[floriduh voter]

Good point. Life and liberty comes to mind too. They go hand in hand. Liberty goes first, then life. Wesley Smith, Phd is a foremost expert on bioethics. He's on the side of life. People should not be judged by atheists, the aclu, and fringe groups or even RINO republicans as to the value of their lives. That is where the objection lies.

There was a united front to kill Terri. They weren't as organized in 2003 but by 2005, even law enforcement was helping the death cultists. It's hard to kill an innocent person unless all the ducks are in a row. Finally, they were!

[floriduh voter]

If a bank robber shoots and kills a bank teller, it's called murder. Because it happened to a disabled woman, doesn't make it a "wild conspiracy". It was a murder and she got robbed first so that she was medicaid eligible. (Medicaid fraud to take a wife's rehab monies, spirited to death attorneys so that she's eligible for medicaid so that the state can kill her in a bad hospice.)

Why don't people get that major fraud occurred in Terri's case?

They never will. Although the media did a great job brainwashing the American people, thank God they didn't have much of an effect on freepers.

[floriduh voter]

Parents of disabled children, with elderly parents and disabled Americans have reason to fear a Thompson presidency. They're on their own. If the leader of the free world cannot protect the vulnerable, then well, we're all sol. It appears FT has a crystal ball and can see well into the future:

"And this will probably be the last time I ever address it." Fred Thompson

[floriduh voter]

There was a Terri hearing (without Terri) in Greer's courtroom. The subject was would Terri go to hell if they starved and dehydrated her based upon the ruse of her made up wishes or would she be stuck in purgatory?

It was in the www.sptimes.com back in 2004 or early 2005.

Terri's not responsible for her death. It was a hearing like no other. Greer, the big RINO bootlicker deciding Terri's penalties from God. Greer, who said his opponents were bloggers (yeah, like Blogger Pope John Paul II but the media was on his side. OBVIOUSLY.

Too bad he can't take the leftist propagandist media w/him when his life's journey is over.

[floriduh voter]

Yes, t’wit. I miss his one liners, zingers, his rhymes and his medical-legal expertise. We’re going to be mourning his passing for a long time.

[floriduh voter]

You want me to do a term paper. No, thanks. I'll repeat Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation web site. They have lots of links and it's instantaneous. I, on the other hand, have my memories of a dreadful, experience when America changed forever - March 31, 2005

A state committed Medicaid fraud for starters and killed an innocent American.

Anybody got a problem with that?

www.terrisfight.org

[Manic_Episode]

Freds situation with his daughter is non-analogous. Pulling the plug is not starving and dehydrating someone to death.

Fred just agreed with the way Terri Schiavos case went down

Not good. Not good at all. Double plus ungood.

[DelphiUser]

You want me to do a term paper.

Nope, just get in touch with reality.

No, thanks. I'll repeat Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation web site. They have lots of links and it's instantaneous.

Yah! now there is a place to get unbiased information...

I, on the other hand, have my memories of a dreadful, experience when America changed forever - March 31, 2005

America did not change, your perception of it did.

A state committed Medicaid fraud for starters and killed an innocent American.

Fraud? LOL!

Anybody got a problem with that?

Nope, you do what you want, just allow me aht same privelidge and I will have no compalints, I will however, have a sense of humor where you seem to have none.


She's dead Jim.

[A CA Guy]

If she died 6 days after the accident, she died from a failure of a body part, not starvation.

I also doubt she was forbidden nourishment during much of the 6 days.

[floriduh voter]

Murder is no laughing matter to me. If you think it’s funny, you go for it.