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Gay Dumbledore: Somewhere, Jerry Falwell Is Smiling
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/22/2007 10:44:45 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

"It’s a children’s show, folks. To think we would be putting sexual innuendo in a children’s show is kind of outlandish." Spokesman for Itsy Bitsy Entertainment Co., which licenses Teletubby characters in the United States.

Yeah, outlandish. I mean, how could anyone imagine there could be undisclosed gay characters in pop-culture materials for children? That Jerry Falwell, what a Christian conservative crank! We all remember how the MSM rightly unloaded on him when he suggested that the Teletubby Tinky Winky could be a hidden homosexual, because "he is purple, the gay pride color, and his antenna is shaped like a triangle, the gay pride symbol." Not to mention that he carried a purse. What ridiculous speculation!

The New York Times, for example, in an article written shortly after Falwell's death, mocked him as having "spouted off" with his gay Teletubby theory.

What's that? It now turns out that Dumbledore is gay? That guy who was the headmaster at Harry Potter's Hogwarts? Author J.K. Rowling said so herself?

Oh, well, that's different. According to the New York Times:

A gay headmaster at a British boarding school? The idea may not be particularly shocking to the literati or to those who have speculated on the Internet about the sexuality of Albus Dumbledore, master wizard and headmaster of Hogwarts, home to Harry Potter and his mates.
What? We shouldn't be shocked that British boarding school headmasters are gay? Sounds like sexual stereotyping to me. What's next, the Times telling us that we shouldn't be shocked by gay male window designers or figure skaters?

And while Falwell was thoroughly lambasted in the MSM for his suggestion, the Times tells us that Rowlings's revelation inspired "applause."

Somewhere, Jerry Falwell is smiling.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dumbledore; jerryfalwell; newyorktimes; teletubbies
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To: Greg F

The text is stable. The author’s view doesn’t change its content any more than anyone else’s.


61 posted on 10/22/2007 12:44:31 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CT-Freeper

Thats exactly what I said about the FICTIONAL character. Gee JK, next you’ll be telling us the character was secretly buggering young boys in between spells or whatever. (FUll disclosure: I never read any of that crap)


62 posted on 10/22/2007 12:49:59 PM PDT by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must not be Dismayed)
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To: Borges

The text is stable. The author’s view doesn’t change its content any more than anyone else’s.
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Wrong. If you know that a character is X or symbolizes X, you will read the work in that light. The “text” changes in that the readers interaction with it changes.


63 posted on 10/22/2007 12:57:57 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yes, Dumbledore was gay as a Teletubby. And Hagrid -- does the word BESTIALITY come to mind? Severus Snape was addicted to porn. Prof. Trelawney really knew now to use that wand, if you know what I mean.

So gather your galleons and order J.K. Rowling's new book, the next final edition of the Potter series, "Harry Potter and the Secret Hogwart's Orgies."

64 posted on 10/22/2007 1:13:45 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TightyRighty; Red Badger; Dreagon
Dumbledore and Grindelwald

Because Dumbledore's parents were absent (his father being in Azkaban and mother deceased), Albus became the head of the family and it became his duty to put food on the table (they were not left with much gold). He was forced to remain in his house with his sister Ariana while Aberforth completed his education. Soon later, a young Gellert Grindelwald arrived in Godric's Hollow to live with his great-aunt, Bathilda Bagshot, author of A History of Magic. The young Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and together they dreamed of ruling the world "for the greater good" by uniting the legendary Deathly Hallows.

Both wizards had the idea that the Wizarding world should take its rightful place on top of the Muggles, and both believed that wizards should rule over them and put them in their rightful place amongst the entire world. Even if they were forced to destroy a few along the way, it would be "For the greater good" and that the sufferings and losses would be rewarded a hundredfold in the end. However, a discussion between Albus, Aberforth and Grindelwald led to a duel that resulted in Ariana's death. For the rest of his life, Dumbledore felt guilty, never certain whether it was his own curse or another that had actually killed his sister.

Grindelwald stormed back to Bagshot's home and departed to begin his own rule. Meanwhile, in Ariana's funeral, Aberforth became enraged during the service and punched Albus in the nose, breaking it, giving its known crooked appearance. Albus later felt great remorse for his mistakes during adolescence. As a result of them, he felt that he was not to be trusted with power and, because of this, never took the position of Minister of Magic, despite having been offered several times. Dumbledore retured to Hogwarts as professor of Transfiguration, and most likely later became Deputy Headmaster of Hogwarts as he also served in recruiting students for the school.

Dumbledore finally defeated the now-Dark wizard Grindelwald, who had come to possess the Elder Wand. After Grindelwald's defeat, Dumbledore became true master of the Elder Wand, which has been his wand until his death, regarding it as the least of the three Hallows, and the only one he was fit to wield.

While speaking at Carnegie Hall, New York City on October 19, 2007, J.K. Rowling was asked by a young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love". Rowling said "Dumbledore is gay" and that he had fallen in love with Grindelwald, who did not return his affections. That love, she said, was Dumbledore's "great tragedy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbledore

Griselda Marchbanks, Head of the Wizarding Examinations Authority, remarked that the young Dumbledore had "...done things with a wand I'd never seen before.

I bet he could do tricks with his wand......

65 posted on 10/22/2007 1:13:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: TChad
Dumbledore was gay as a Teletubby. And Hagrid -- does the word BESTIALITY come to mind? Severus Snape was addicted to porn

Yeah, sounds like some typical San Fransisco school to me.

66 posted on 10/22/2007 1:16:24 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Borges
HP has a large life OUTSIDE the page - just like Starwars or Star Trek etc. A child’s interest in a “franchise” does not end when they turn the last page. I think you probably know that. This is an attempt to normalize, or rather, positively promote homosexuality to young people.

You are exactly right and make the point I was trying to express better than I do.

67 posted on 10/22/2007 1:17:43 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Prokopton

She’s been writing about it. Check Wikipedia.


68 posted on 10/22/2007 1:17:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Red Badger
First Gandalf now Dumbeldore?

Well, he was the headmaster! (rimshot!)

69 posted on 10/22/2007 1:24:04 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!! SHE'S A HUMAN!!! (/s))
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To: CT-Freeper
Dumbledore is a fictional character... F-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-L C-H-A-R-A-C-T-E-R... I don't care what Ms. Rowling says that he "is."

I've read the entire series multiple times and don't remember a single gay reference. As I saw it, sex was so verboten in the stories that no one ever got beyond kissing before marriage, and no mention about infidelity in married couples.

70 posted on 10/22/2007 1:27:13 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Greg F
The point is Rowling’s own interaction with her text doesn’t have to be anyone else’s.
71 posted on 10/22/2007 1:34:43 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I get your point. Do you get mine?


72 posted on 10/22/2007 1:37:03 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: TightyRighty
“There was not a shred of evidence in the book that he was gay which leads me to believe: a)he was NEVER gay and she is pandering to gays or b)her writing is so bad she has to explain her characters.”

I think she’s just throwing this in now for shock value. After saying Dumbledore was gay, she made the comment, “Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh?” Apparently some fans had already been speculating about Dumbledore being gay and had laid out this whole scenario she described online. She’s probably just taking the lead from them, for shock value. It is quite possible or even likely that she never intended for Dumbledore to be gay, but is just going with this now to get people riled up. It was a stupid and irresponsible thing for her to do though.

73 posted on 10/22/2007 1:42:37 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
It is quite possible or even likely that she never intended for Dumbledore to be gay

She didn't intend him to be gay because if she did, she would have made him gay in her books. She didn't so he isn't.

74 posted on 10/22/2007 1:52:17 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Greg F

Yes. I’m listening to Wagner right now and have learned to not let his anti-semitism and generally filthy ideas color my perception of his operas with their pagan themes.


75 posted on 10/22/2007 2:18:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

But didn’t Wagner influence both Nietzsche and Hitler to that very anti-semitism? I think that he did.


76 posted on 10/22/2007 2:52:23 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

Nietzsche turned away from Wagner partly because of the latter’s anti-semitism. Hitler thought he was influenced by a whole range of people including Martin Luther.


77 posted on 10/22/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by Borges
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To: AU72

Waiting for an updated ‘Tom Swift’ as a roadie for the Village People or Nance Drew opening a leather shop in Provincetown.

Also, see the new Dr. Seuss stories, "How the Grinch Stole My Vibrator," "The Cat Comes Out of the Closet," and "Horton Hatches the Ho." Fun reading for children of all ages.

78 posted on 10/22/2007 4:25:09 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Borges
Hitler also thought that he was the successor to the 2nd Reich, aka the Holy Roman Empire, and that his reign would last "for 1,000 years."

Nietzsche would have slapped his sister for what she did with his legacy...

79 posted on 10/22/2007 4:29:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Greg F

Rowling never said Dumbledorf was gay. She said Dumbledore was gay.


80 posted on 10/22/2007 5:51:21 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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