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To: Badeye
That is why its reliable. GM builds reliable large vehicles, Toyota does not. My point was that Toyota is chasing American companies who have had 70 years experience building large, hard working reliable trucks and 4wd vehicles.
58 posted on 10/16/2007 12:25:20 PM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: normy

Oh yes, the same companies that decided 1) to build trucks that set themselves on fire in your garage, 2) to build trucks and SUVs with the steering wheel offset so you damage your spine in a crash when the airbag goes off and you torque around it, and 3) built the new 2500/3500 class trucks they make with controls that CANNOT be operated in work gloves. You know, those companies?


60 posted on 10/16/2007 12:27:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: normy

Ah, got it. Thanks for the clarification.

You wouldn’t believe some of the crap I get from total strangers about my H2.

Likewise, you wouldn’t believe the number of people that come up to me when I’m filling up, many with their kids, just wanting to get a look at it up close. I always let em get in....the smiles alone make it worth it, especially little boys and their moms and dads.


63 posted on 10/16/2007 12:31:23 PM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: normy

Ah, got it. Thanks for the clarification.

You wouldn’t believe some of the crap I get from total strangers about my H2.

Likewise, you wouldn’t believe the number of people that come up to me when I’m filling up, many with their kids, just wanting to get a look at it up close. I always let em get in....the smiles alone make it worth it, especially little boys and their moms and dads.


64 posted on 10/16/2007 12:31:35 PM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: normy
That is why its reliable. GM builds reliable large vehicles, Toyota does not.

My personal expoerience and those of Top Gear would beg to differ. Check out the "Indestrctible Toyota" footage sometime - magnificent!

Also, the successful drive to the north pole in a toyota last year proved they could withstand hellish extremes, both in temes of tempeature, terrain and general punishment. (On July 25, 2007, the BBC aired a special episode of Top Gear where two of its presenters, James May and Jeremy Clarkson became the first ever people to reach the 1996 Magnetic North Pole in an automobile, the Toyota Hilux.[1])

From Wikipedia (But don't sneer - I've seen all the footage:

The Toyota Hilux has gained a reputation for exceptional sturdiness and reliability, even during sustained heavy use, and is often referred to as "The indestructible car". This was further reinforced when on the third series (programme five) of the revamped BBC motoring show Top Gear, a 1988 Toyota Hilux with 190,000 miles (308,000km) on the clock, was subjected to a succession of extraordinary abuse, which included driving it down the steps behind Bristol Cathedral, scraping buildings in Bristol, crashing it into a tree, tying it up to a jetty to be washed out to sea by the incoming tide, driving it through a garden shed (a.k.a the Top Gear production office), dropping a caravan onto it, hitting it with a wrecking ball, setting the cabin and bed area on fire, and placing it on top of a 240-foot block of flats that was subsequently destroyed by a controlled demolition. Amazingly, although it was now suffering from severe structural damage (there was already significant body corrosion when it was purchased), the truck was still running after being repaired without spare parts and only with typical tools and equipment that would be found in a car's toolbox, such as spanners, motor oil, and a monkey wrench. The Hilux currently resides as one of the background decorations in the newly revamped Top Gear Studio from Season 8.[2]

In the 2006 series (Series 8, Episode 3), a Hilux was chosen by Jeremy Clarkson as his platform for creating an amphibious vehicle. With assistance, Clarkson rigged the truck with a massive outboard motor and steering mechanism in the pickup bed. The truck, redubbed the "Toybota", was driven by Clarkson over several miles by road and two miles across open water, before capsizing during a quick turn. Once recovered, the vehicle was moved back to the Top Gear Studio, where a confident Clarkson stated that he would be the only one capable of driving his car home, since it was the indestructible Hilux. However, Clarkson could not get the Hilux started which led his co-hosts to believe that Clarkson had finally destroyed the "indestructible".

117 posted on 10/16/2007 4:47:30 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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