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Debate flies over 'sex play' in kindergartens (Norway)
Aftenposten ^ | 16 Oct 2007, 11:55 | Aftenposten

Posted on 10/16/2007 7:25:18 AM PDT by Koblenz

A specialist in early childhood education in Oslo is giving new meaning to the term "sexual games," and stirring widespread debate.

Norwegians woke up Tuesday morning to news that a respected Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, thinks children should be allowed to openly express their own sexuality, not least through sex play and games in the local day care centers known as barnehager, or kindergartens.

The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.

Pia Friis, leader of the popular Bjerkealleen Barnehage in Oslo and a well-known pre-school educator, told newspaper Dagbladet on Tuesday that children should be allowed to express their own sexuality at day care centers. She doesn't want to stifle what comes naturally.

Children, she said, should be able "to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate.

"But their sexuality must also be socialized, so they are not, for example, allowed to masturbate while sitting and eating. Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to."

Friis said there's a lot of uncertainty around how day care center employees should handle children's sexuality.

"The only thing that is absolutely certain is that children, sooner or later, will play sexual games and examine each other at the kindergarten," she told Dagbladet. "When the personnel are uncertain, that passes on to the children, and it can be negative."

The issue is the topic of an article in the latest edition of the magazine published by Norway's industry association for privately owned kindergartens, PBL-nytt, and Friis thinks it's important. So do child psychologist Thore Langfeldt and family therapist Jesper Juul.

"Children must learn about sexuality, otherwise things can go very wrong," said Langfeldt. "Children can't object to something they don't know about, and children can more easily and readily report assaults if they already are aware of their own sexuality."

Juul conceded that "many are disturbed by children's sexuality, but I think it's important to put it on the agenda. That, in fact, is what we're doing."

While Norwegians are known for being liberal and tolerant, the issue already has sparked heated debate on radio programs and in online opinion forums. And some politicians are outraged, not least those on the conservative side.

"I thought at first that this was a joke," said Karin Ståhl Woldseth, a spokesman on family issues for the Progress Party.

"Sexual games don't belong in a kindergarten," she declared. "Children don't need more exposure to this in kindergartens. We think it will damage their health."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturewar; indoctrination; kindergarten; norway; sex; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren
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I am quite speechless here... And to think that a majority of Europeans don't like America in the opinion polls because we aren't progressive enough. If teaching kindergartners how to masturbate is what progressives do, I really want no part of them!
1 posted on 10/16/2007 7:25:20 AM PDT by Koblenz
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To: Koblenz

I know it would be a matter of time. Get out and read your worn out copy of Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. This kind of thing is described right there as being common place in the future.... The book written over 75 years ago.


2 posted on 10/16/2007 7:27:35 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Koblenz
Norwegians woke up Tuesday morning to news that a respected Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, thinks children should be allowed to openly express their own sexuality, not least through sex play and games in the local day care centers known as barnehager, or kindergartens.

The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.
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Brainwashing from the age of 1.....nice. How perverse and EVIL. Makes me think about how Hillary desires pre-k for all kids.

3 posted on 10/16/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Koblenz
Norwegians woke up Tuesday morning to news that a respected Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, thinks children should be allowed to openly express their own sexuality, not least through sex play and games in the local day care centers known as barnehager, or kindergartens.

The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.
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Brainwashing from the age of 1.....nice. How perverse and EVIL. Makes me think about how Hillary desires pre-k for all kids.

4 posted on 10/16/2007 7:30:20 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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I guarantee you this is for the white children only, these pansy libs haven’t got a pair to try this on Muzzie children. Its like life here in the suburban utopia there are one set of rules for upscale white bread kids and in the next town they pass gun control amendments to keep the kiddies from poppin a cap into someone (yeah right). More lib failure.


5 posted on 10/16/2007 7:30:41 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: Koblenz
Pia Friis, leader of the popular Bjerkealleen Barnehage in Oslo and a well-known pre-school educator, told newspaper Dagbladet on Tuesday that children should be allowed to express their own sexuality at day care centers. She doesn't want to stifle what comes naturally.

Children, she said, should be able "to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate.

What a sick f#@k. This deviant belongs in a mental institution. "Stifle what comes naturally"? Maybe we should just allow men to grope women on the street, since that comes naturally to most men. Maybe we should all just drop trou and take a dump on the sidewalk when we get the urge as well. After all, it's "natural". It's also "natural" for me to club Pia Friis over the head and take her property, since money and commerce are man-made constructs and the law of the jungle is what's "natural".

6 posted on 10/16/2007 7:32:58 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

More evidence that we are in end times.


7 posted on 10/16/2007 7:33:20 AM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.

What a desolate way to spend your childhood.

8 posted on 10/16/2007 7:34:34 AM PDT by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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I know it would be a matter of time. Get out and read your worn out copy of Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

That's exactly what I thought of, too. Audible has a great audiobook version read by Michael York.

9 posted on 10/16/2007 7:38:09 AM PDT by retrokitten (Milk was a bad choice. I'm completely miserable, San Diego.)
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Unbelievable!

“She doesn’t want to stifle what comes naturally.”

Does she allow them to push, grab toys, bite, and swat each other, too?


10 posted on 10/16/2007 7:39:32 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Koblenz

maybe this will cause the islamists to recoil in disgust and leave that country /sarc


11 posted on 10/16/2007 7:39:55 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: lesser_satan

Pia Friis is a pedophile and should be kept far away from kids.


12 posted on 10/16/2007 7:40:04 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Koblenz

At a loss for words.

Does stupidity fit?


13 posted on 10/16/2007 7:44:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: sageb1

“She doesn’t want to stifle what comes naturally.””

Picking noses, scratching bums, and spitting?


14 posted on 10/16/2007 7:46:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Koblenz
My guess is that Pia Friis... is a bonafide pedifile. They love to gather where children are. You look into their backgrounds and bingo...

When the state sanctions this evil behavior the fall can't be far behind.

We are headed in the same direction. Look what Arnold signed recently... here

15 posted on 10/16/2007 7:46:28 AM PDT by BigFinn (Vast rightwing conspiracy... ghost of the Clinton past... clink, clink...)
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“The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.”

You’re right. That IS the problem right there. And yes, Hillary does want universal preK, but the bigger problem is the fact that so many have children and plunk them in daycare to begin with.


16 posted on 10/16/2007 7:48:38 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Koblenz

These kids are in goverment care from age one. They have zero private time and everything is programmed.

So the logical conclusion is that “playing doctor” will need to be programmed too.

Our future- by leftists!


17 posted on 10/16/2007 7:56:21 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Koblenz

Oh good grief... I know ‘you show me yours, I’ll show you mine’ thing was something most of us did, but geez, not even close to what these people are saying!


18 posted on 10/16/2007 7:58:37 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Koblenz
The safe way in "bringing the child up the way it should go", is to preserve innocence as far as practical. Soon, too soon the child will be exposed to what is called life in general.

I am amazed at some of the incendiary comments by Freepers on various subjects- ie the Islamic Fascists and even Paris Hilton. Now I have to join them. Herewith:

If such things happen because of this individuals experimental ideas. He should be forced to spend a few years in jail. Certain people might experiment on him.

19 posted on 10/16/2007 8:01:03 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Koblenz

It comes naturally when you’re about 15, not 5.


20 posted on 10/16/2007 8:09:26 AM PDT by wastedyears (I don't wanna grow up, help : /)
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