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Thompson 'Terrible' in Chinagate Probe, Critics Say
Cybercast News Service ^ | October 10, 2007 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 10/15/2007 7:57:12 PM PDT by rmlew

(CNSNews.com) - On Tuesday, the day Fred Thompson made his debate debut in the 2008 presidential race, two conservative commentators criticized how the former Tennessee senator handled the 1990s Senate probe into Clinton campaign fundraising corruption.

Thompson was chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee in 1997, when the committee probed Chinese money that allegedly poured into the 1996 re-election campaign of President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore.

"Had there been a legitimate investigation of Chinese money laundering, the results would have been very different from the results of Monica Lewinsky," said John Gizzi, political editor for Human Events, the conservative weekly newspaper.

Gizzi was contrasting Clinton's campaign finance scandal - which he deemed far more serious - with the sex and perjury scandal that led to Clinton's impeachment in the House and acquittal in the Senate in the late 1990s.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1997; 2008; axisofdesperation; billclinton; china; chinagate; clinton; clintonsavior; elections; freadheads; fredhead; fredthompson; hillary; hillaryclinton; hsu; normanhsu; pwnedbybill; pwnedbyglenn; romneysleazemachine; thompson; thomspon
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To: DoughtyOne

The correct response would be to hold a hearing with empty wintess seats bhinds the Clinton person and ask him why the following were let out and whether this is not obstruction of justice.


61 posted on 10/15/2007 9:55:33 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: ejonesie22

Oh come on, I dont have to do much search to find a nasty post calling him ‘Slick willard’ etc.

Like i said, I dont like this kind of trashing of other Republicans. There is enough material on Thompson to trash him, i dont like it but Fred voters started it and they are getting it back.


62 posted on 10/15/2007 10:00:11 PM PDT by GregH
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To: rmlew

They would have never had the hearings at all if that were the case. Clinton would never send them, and neither side would have supported that format.

Laying all this at just Fred’s feet is folly (surprise) he was snookered from both teams.


63 posted on 10/15/2007 10:01:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Maynerd

Spot on, well said.


64 posted on 10/15/2007 10:02:30 PM PDT by GregH
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To: GregH; Petronski
“Slick Willard?”, that rises to the level of posting Jeri Thompson with a stripper photo, or worse calling her a tramp, a gold digger and the like?

Or how about trying to use “remote diagnosis” on Fred illness to sell the idea he is sick still, despite his comments and his doctors information to the contrary?

Fred voters started nothing, Thompson was being trashed from the very mention of his candidacy. And as a general rule, with precious few exceptions, we stick to policy issues, not the wives of the people running.

65 posted on 10/15/2007 10:10:25 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: jveritas
Free trade with China and most countries of the world is an inevitable reality because the US is the Super Engine of the world economy, so you need to live with this fact.
Free Trade is not inevitable. We can put up tarrifs. We choose not to.

In regards to the other crap you spouted about his approval of employers hiring illegal immigrants you need to prove it with facts or just stop lying.
I'm noting the truth. Thompson voted in favor of the Hatch Ammendment to S. 1664 to reduce fines against employers who hire illegal aliens
Voted in favor of the Abraham Amendment to S. 1644, a vote against of increased interior enforcement

http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/FThompsonPres08.html
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=TN&VIPID=743&retired=1

66 posted on 10/15/2007 10:16:39 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: Bobbisox

You’ll excuse me if I don’t trust Howard Baker’s protege who has shown himself weak on China and weak on immigration and whose major selling point is his charisma and slot as token conservative for a liberal show.


67 posted on 10/15/2007 10:18:41 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: ejonesie22
Laying all this at just Fred’s feet is folly (surprise) he was snookered from both teams.
I believe that we are looking for commander in chief here. Politics is war. There is no place for crying that the other team isn't playing by the rules. Fred will have to face Clinton and he has lost before.
68 posted on 10/15/2007 10:22:10 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: willk
hat said I do agree with most of Fred’s positions and would be happy to vote for him against Hillary if he ends up as our nominee.
The second part is not really praise. I'd vote fory of the Republican candidates over the Democrats. However, we are nominating someone right now not looking for the lesser of two politicians.
69 posted on 10/15/2007 10:25:37 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: rmlew
Oh for the love of...

That site is hoot, and I am glad you posted it. He has 11 Green checks and one red x and they give him a C+? Never been teachers before I guess.

He voted against that act because he did not feel it was time to punish business or put them in the position of immigration enforcement when the government was not doing it itself. Makes sense, why should I as a business man do what the government won't.

Other than that, if you could even call it a strike, the site YOU post, as well as others have shown FDT to be pretty strong on Immigration. His own position as is stated:

The United States is a nation of immigrants. Throughout our history, legal immigrants have brought energy, ideas, strength, and diversity to our country, our economy, and our culture. This must continue. But in the post-9/11 world, immigration is more of a national security issue. A government that cannot secure its borders and determine who may enter and who may not, abrogates a fundamental responsibility. I am committed to:

Securing our borders and enforcing immigration laws. Amnesty is not an option and the toleration of “sanctuary cities” must end.

Reviewing our immigration laws and policies to ensure they advance our national interests.

Uniting Americans by welcoming legal immigrants willing to learn English, assimilate into our communities, and become productive citizens.

I'll put the link to you site in again, for future reference, it is useful to a point despite the somewhat odd grading. (11/12 is an A most places)

http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/FThompsonPres08.html

70 posted on 10/15/2007 10:30:48 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

The term ‘Slick Willard’ has been used as a reference for Clinton, and now to use it on Romney and compare him to the traitor is a hideous and repulsive tactic.

It is very evident Fred voters have been spamming Romney threads with namecalling and negativity and infact i dont even bother to post on such threads anymore as i know i cannot reason with such boofheads.

If some( a very minority) of Romney supporters are dishing it back on Fred, then it is understandable.


71 posted on 10/15/2007 10:32:46 PM PDT by GregH
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To: rmlew
Right...

Seems you should be in charge in the Senate, I am sure they will do it your way...

Those 100 other bastards will have nothing on you, you whip ‘em in shape...

BTW, as I should have known, you missed the part about the issues with Thompson's own team, but I know, bloody details screw up the “truth”...

Go and seek out FDT's own comments after China gate, they are out there and I have seen a link posted here recently. Try a little reading, you'll gain understanding.

72 posted on 10/15/2007 10:36:33 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: SteveMcKing

Your posting has brought me to a decision: I care more about defeating your candidate than defeating Hillary. It is my intention, should he be nominated, to point out that he supports the ‘Mountain Meadows Massacre’, and that his entire family consists of the descendants of the perpetrators.


73 posted on 10/15/2007 10:37:42 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: GregH
Um that was Slick Willie...

But yes the comparisons are drawn, and while I dont support that, Mitt’s presentation is a bit slick and his conversions a tick or two convenient.

That being said you are over playing that spamming bit, indeed many negative Fred articles come from Mitt folk. As far “a very minority”, spare the high an mighty act for the kids...

74 posted on 10/15/2007 10:42:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: SteveMcKing
I don't care who you support or oppose.....I just know you're a misogynist and disgrace to this forum.......and to Republican women of achievement, to boot.

The same type of heavy breathers on this forum also repeatedly posted ancient mammary photos of Katherine Harris during her senatorial campaign.

I would be grateful to you breathers if you would focus your attention on your blow-up dolls and leave Mrs. Thompson alone.

Leni

75 posted on 10/15/2007 10:58:39 PM PDT by MinuteGal (AlGore - The High Priest of the Religion of Fleece)
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To: SteveMcKing

LOL! Love the pictures! How true.


77 posted on 10/15/2007 11:14:29 PM PDT by SHEENA26
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To: ejonesie22
That site is hoot, and I am glad you posted it. He has 11 Green checks and one red x and they give him a C+? Never been teachers before I guess.
I was talking about interior enforcement. I guess i did not make this link prominent enough. http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgradescategory.php3?District=TN&Category=9&Status=Career&VIPID=743&retired=1
He got 20/31. That isn't a C+ where i come from That is a D.

The United States is a nation of immigrants
That makes me sick and I am a child of immigrants.
The US existed before immigrants came. We were founded by citizens, with a largely common culture.

Throughout our history, legal immigrants have brought energy, ideas, strength, and diversity to our country, our economy, and our culture. This must continue.
Sure. They have also brought disunity, discord, dislocation, regional depression, socialism, and communism. Our historical pattern is to counter a generation of relatively lax immigration with one of closed immigration to allow for Americanization.

. But in the post-9/11 world, immigration is more of a national security issue.
Post-9/11? This was an issue well before then.

Securing our borders and enforcing immigration laws. Amnesty is not an option and the toleration of “sanctuary cities” must end.
And "sanctuary employers?"

Reviewing our immigration laws and policies to ensure they advance our national interests.
Does that include cheap labor?

Uniting Americans by welcoming legal immigrants willing to learn English, assimilate into our communities, and become productive citizens.
1. Good start. How about we work to Americanize them?
2. What do we do with those who don't want to Americanize?
3. Wouldn't reducing numbers do this too?

78 posted on 10/15/2007 11:14:39 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: MinuteGal

“I don’t care who you support or oppose.....I just know you’re a misogynist and disgrace to this forum.......and to Republican women of achievement, to boot.”

Uh, if you’re referring to Jeri...you’re kidding, right?


79 posted on 10/15/2007 11:17:48 PM PDT by SHEENA26
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To: rmlew
During the investigation by the Department of Justice (DOJ), about 120 people connected to "Chinagate" either fled the country or pleaded the Fifth Amendment to prevent testifying. This contributed to a perceived failure of the investigation by both Thompson's Senate committee and the DOJ.

An amazing failure.

80 posted on 10/15/2007 11:20:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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