Posted on 10/12/2007 9:06:25 AM PDT by Froufrou
One in five pregnancies worldwide and one in three pregnancies in Europe ends in abortion, according to a new study published in a special female-focused issue of the Lancet.
The study also found that, on average, 90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45, based on 2003 data. However, many women will have had multiple abortions and many none at all to come to this average.
Although the statistics may seem startling, worldwide rates of induced abortion actually fell 17 percent from 46 million to 42 million between 1995 and 2003.
Unsafe abortion has not declined worldwide, however, and is concentrated in developing countries, according to a study conducted by Dr. Gilda Sedgh of the Guttmacher Institute in New York, Dr. Iqbal Shah of World Health Organization in Switzerland and colleagues.
The researchers calculated worldwide and regional incidences of safe abortions using reports from national reporting systems, nationally representative surveys and published studies. Figures for unsafe abortion were estimated from hospital data, survey and other published studies.
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With all the available birth control what gives ?
"1 in 5 Pregnancies Worldwide Ends in Abortion, Study Says
90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45"
Well, which is it?
1 in 5
or
9 in 10?
It's really confusing, because those are two completely different statistics.
Presume for the moment that both are true (just for the sake of argument). That would mean 9 in 10 women are responsible for 1 in 5 births, which means the remaining 1 in 10 women have a lot of children.
Don't know if I believe that, but it's possible. The women most likely to have abortions are also the least likely to have large families - does it therefore follow that the women least likely to have an abortion are the most likely to have large families?
They don’t care, as long as it sounds big enough to say, “Hell, everybody does it!”
The world is, indeed, sliding toward destruction.
So you’d classify yourself as anti-abortion, but not pro-life?
Pro-choice = Pro-murder. You may not like the terminology but that’s the truth.
Let’s just have a look shall we at what the Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary has to say about the heinous, murderous practice of abortion.
“ABORTION
The Bible places a high value on all human life, including that of the unborn. Biblical teaching declares that life is a sacred, God-given gift (Gen. 1:26-27; 2:7; Deut. 30:15-19; Job 1:21; Ps. 8:5; 1 Cor. 15:26), especially the life of children (Ps. 127:3-5; Luke 18:15-16), and condemns those who take it away (Exod. 20:13; 2 Kings 1:13; Amos 1:13-14). The development of unborn life is controlled by God (Job 31:15; Ps. 139:13-16; Eccles. 11:5; Isa. 44:2; 46:3; 49:5; Jer. 1:5; Luke 1:15; Gal. 1:15). The personhood of the fetus is clearly taught in Exod. 21:22 where the unborn is called a “child” (yeled) rather than a “fetus” (nephel or golem). Hos. 9:11 implies that life begins at conception, while Luke 1:41,44 recognizes the consciousness of an unborn child.
The high value placed on unborn human life in the Bible is consistent with the Mosaic law regarding negligent miscarriage (Exod. 21:22-25). This law can be compared to similar statutes in the Code of Hammurabi (nos. 209-214) in which the punishment exacted for acts of negligence that resulted in a woman’s miscarriage was dependent on the legal or social status of the mother, not the personhood (or supposed lack thereof) of her unborn child. Middle Assyrian law no. 53 (12th century b.c.) made a self-induced miscarriage (an abortion) a capital offense.”
God’s word from the Holy Bible is the highest and final authority on any moral argument such as this. Murder by definition is the taking of an innocent human life. Abortion is the taking of an innocent human life. Therefore abortion IS murder which is a violation of the 6th Commandment (Exodus 20:13).
People have to get off the fence and decide whose side they are on - either God’s side and pro-life or Satan’s side and pro-murder (pro-choice).
Once again, either this reporter is either mathematically illiterate or too lazy to take out a calculator and do a simple division. A 4 million drop is about a 9% drop, not 17%. I vote for both lazy and illiterate.
Are they considering “spontaneous abortion”? My mother had what was considered a “spontaneous abortion”, otherwise known as a miscarriage.
“I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second.”
I have always been against the Death Penalty. I have also always been pro Death Penalty. Against the Death Penalty comes first, Pro Death Penalty second.
Now, does that make sense?
I could believe the 90% number in that case. Most women have more than one child and miscarriage is not that uncommon.
No it doesn’t make sense when worded like that. However it does make sense when I say that I am pro-death penalty, I don’t think we use it enough, nor fast enough. John Couey and Joseph Duncan for example should be sucking dirt instead of air. I am also pro-choice in that I think it should be up to each State to decide if their state has a death penalty provision or not.
I am against the SCOTUS decision on Roe V Wade for the same reason. I think Roe V Wade should be overturned and rolled back to each individual State deciding on the matter. That decision was completely wrong Constitutionally. If it were overturned and all 50 States made all forms of abortion illegal so be it. I would support that decision, but I would not personally vote that way if it came back to the States.
I am against the act of abortion, but I do not believe that it should be made illegal. If I knew someone that was thinking about having an abortion I counsel against having one. I would offer to help with adoption proceedings. I would even offer to help after the child was born if she didn’t adopt. I would not support making a law that said flat out abortion is not a choice.
Part of the problem is allowing for medically necessary abortions (and nobody can tell me they don’t exist because I know first hand they do or I would no longer have my Wife nor first born due next week) at the same time as banning non-medical ones.
Now certain forms of abortion should be banned. Partial birth for example has zero place in any society. Those absolutely should be banned. If the baby is that far along it can be delivered and given up for immediate adoption. No sane doctor would have ever done this form of abortion.
I am also against abortion as a form of birth control, women who refuse to use birth control but have had multiple abortions...yes these women I consider evil in the Biblical sense. Then of course there are those that think that birth control itself is also a sin.
I will (probably) never be strictly for making abortion illegal and that’s why I say I consider myself pro-life first and pro-choice second. I could say that I am pro-life, but the problem with that is pro-life in political context also means anti-choice. I hate the term pro-choice as well because in the conservative context pro-choice also means abortion on demand for any reason, any time, any method. Neither term fits me properly.
I’m sure I already have many other replies to my original post but unless I want to address something directly this will probably be my last post in this thread. I was trying to express my sadness about the article from a slightly different point of view then the usual here at FR, not get into a giant debate on abortion.
I don’t mind explaining or expanding my views the issue, but I won’t argue or debate over it. I don’t want to change the minds of anyone here from where they already are. I already accept the FR consensus view on the matter.
I should have privatley replied to you. i disagree with you, however, I do hope that you continue to put your viewpoint forward. It is sometimes hard in this forumn, but, I respect anyone who sticks their neck out when they know it’s gonna get chopped to a degree.
"The study also found that, on average, 90 percent of women worldwide will have an abortion before the age of 45, based on 2003 data. However, many women will have had multiple abortions and many none at all to come to this average."
You are assuming that women who have abortions never have children.
What they mean is that 90% of all women will have at least one abortion. A woman who has an abortion can follow with only more abortions or only live births or a combination of the two.
I suspect the 1 in 5 number abortion/live birth is skewed because China - with the world’s largest population - limits women (at least they used to) to one child. The majority of women in China are poor and hence abortion could be the preferred method of preventing births because it’s probably provided free and birth control is costly or non-existent. I wouldn’t be surprised if the average Chinese woman has 10 to 15 abortions versus 1 live birth over her lifetime.
If I had to guess on the abortion number in the US I’d put it at 50% of all women will have an abortion over a lifetime. This is reasonable considering the 2 million babies killed in the US each year. I’d also guess that the vast majority of US women who do kill an unborn child do it once and regret it forever.
“I’d also guess that the vast majority of US women who do kill an unborn child do it once and regret it forever.”
I am 100% positive that you are correct.
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