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To: Domandred

“I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second.”

I have always been against the Death Penalty. I have also always been pro Death Penalty. Against the Death Penalty comes first, Pro Death Penalty second.

Now, does that make sense?


30 posted on 10/12/2007 11:34:24 AM PDT by sappy
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To: sappy

No it doesn’t make sense when worded like that. However it does make sense when I say that I am pro-death penalty, I don’t think we use it enough, nor fast enough. John Couey and Joseph Duncan for example should be sucking dirt instead of air. I am also pro-choice in that I think it should be up to each State to decide if their state has a death penalty provision or not.

I am against the SCOTUS decision on Roe V Wade for the same reason. I think Roe V Wade should be overturned and rolled back to each individual State deciding on the matter. That decision was completely wrong Constitutionally. If it were overturned and all 50 States made all forms of abortion illegal so be it. I would support that decision, but I would not personally vote that way if it came back to the States.

I am against the act of abortion, but I do not believe that it should be made illegal. If I knew someone that was thinking about having an abortion I counsel against having one. I would offer to help with adoption proceedings. I would even offer to help after the child was born if she didn’t adopt. I would not support making a law that said flat out abortion is not a choice.

Part of the problem is allowing for medically necessary abortions (and nobody can tell me they don’t exist because I know first hand they do or I would no longer have my Wife nor first born due next week) at the same time as banning non-medical ones.

Now certain forms of abortion should be banned. Partial birth for example has zero place in any society. Those absolutely should be banned. If the baby is that far along it can be delivered and given up for immediate adoption. No sane doctor would have ever done this form of abortion.

I am also against abortion as a form of birth control, women who refuse to use birth control but have had multiple abortions...yes these women I consider evil in the Biblical sense. Then of course there are those that think that birth control itself is also a sin.

I will (probably) never be strictly for making abortion illegal and that’s why I say I consider myself pro-life first and pro-choice second. I could say that I am pro-life, but the problem with that is pro-life in political context also means anti-choice. I hate the term pro-choice as well because in the conservative context pro-choice also means abortion on demand for any reason, any time, any method. Neither term fits me properly.

I’m sure I already have many other replies to my original post but unless I want to address something directly this will probably be my last post in this thread. I was trying to express my sadness about the article from a slightly different point of view then the usual here at FR, not get into a giant debate on abortion.

I don’t mind explaining or expanding my views the issue, but I won’t argue or debate over it. I don’t want to change the minds of anyone here from where they already are. I already accept the FR consensus view on the matter.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 12:52:06 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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