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Group wants man charged for lion death
Daily Camera ^ | October 10, 2007 | Heath Urie

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:38:12 AM PDT by george76

Mother-in-law of shooter says he had no choice but to shoot.

A man who shot and killed a mountain lion last week in defense of his puppy should face criminal charges in the incident for "baiting" the animal, a wildlife-advocacy group said Tuesday.

Wendy Keefover-Ring, director of the Boulder-based Sinapu Carnivore Protection Program, said state prosecutors should cite Jeremy Kocar for baiting the mountain lion by leaving his dog tied up outside overnight.

Kocar also should face charges of shooting a cougar out of hunting season, which runs Nov. 20 through March 31, shooting without a hunting license and animal cruelty for leaving the puppy out without the protection of a covered kennel, Keefover-Ring said.

"I think it's absolutely negligent," Keefover-Ring said. "If you're living in mountain-lion country, it's common sense that you don't tether a dog outside.

"He needs to be made an example of."

Kocar, 31, killed the big cat early Friday morning after discovering Duke, his family's 8-month-old Rottweiler-Labrador mix, trapped in the cougar's jaws outside his Nederland-area trailer.

Kocar said the cougar turned toward him and took an aggressive posture, prompting him to fire a round at the cougar's head.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycamera.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; bang; banglist; cougar; doggieping; dow; keefoverring; lion; mountainlion; sinapu; sss; wendykeefoverring; wilderness
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Wendy Keefover-Ring ...of the Boulder-based Sinapu ...

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1 posted on 10/10/2007 8:38:13 AM PDT by george76
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; girlangler

“I’m from Wisconsin — and we take care of things there,” ...


2 posted on 10/10/2007 8:39:00 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

It’s not cool to leave dogs chained up outside at any time of the day or night.


3 posted on 10/10/2007 8:39:08 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: george76

Wendy Keefover-Ring

He should have shot her first. That would be real self defense.

And there is nothing at all wrong with leaving a dog chained outside.
They didn’t evolve in the living room.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: george76
"...for baiting the mountain lion by leaving his dog tied up outside overnight."

Hold it! Is this guy nuts? What would you expect in mountain lion country?

5 posted on 10/10/2007 8:43:52 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: george76

Tying a dog out, as cruel as it seems, it not “baiting.” It’s just tying the dog out. Doubt if there was intent to shoot the dang mountain lion other than in defense of one’s property.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 8:44:34 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Apparently the lion got shot when it turned on the guy ?


7 posted on 10/10/2007 8:46:42 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

“Boulder” ‘nuf said.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 8:47:20 AM PDT by elpinta (Tagline temporarily out of service)
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To: madison10
Doubt if there was intent to shoot the dang mountain lion other than in defense of one’s property.

Apparently a hunting license is required for such an action to be legal. Unbelievable.

9 posted on 10/10/2007 8:47:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: george76

That lion will never come back for his kids.


10 posted on 10/10/2007 8:49:10 AM PDT by umgud (Axis of Propaganda; lib academia, lib media, lib entertainment)
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To: george76

but Jon Benet’s killer still run free.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 8:49:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: george76
Apparently the lion got shot when it turned on the guy ?

Yes, so if it turned on the guy how was the guy "baiting?" If the guy was actually "baiting" he would have shot the lion as it walked up to the puppy? Why even use a puppy? Why not a steak?

Animal whack-jobs make me barf.They'll go after a person for this and then turn around and murder animals in a kennel or enclosure that they are supposedly keeping safe.

12 posted on 10/10/2007 8:50:04 AM PDT by madison10
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To: umgud
Dana Fox, his mother-in-law, told the Camera from her Wisconsin home that her son-in-law and his wife, Angela Kocar, 25, and their children — Alena, 4, and Jacob, 8 months — are still shaken by the incident.
13 posted on 10/10/2007 8:51:24 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: madison10
"Tying a dog out, as cruel as it seems, is not “baiting""

Perhaps it's not deliberate 'baiting', but it certainly is stupid. Puppies cannot defend themselves against much of anything, let alone mountain lions.

14 posted on 10/10/2007 8:53:15 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: madison10
There is also this :

One area resident, who didn’t want to be named in this story, speculated that the slain lion was responsible for killing a man’s pet miniature horse in the Nederland area Sept. 2 and a couple’s 60-pound Australian shepherd in Nederland on Sept. 27.

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15 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:01 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; All

Our hunting dogs have lived outside (with shelter) and inside for years. Both are gone now, after long, happy lives; we haven’t decided whether to get more, as we don’t hunt as much as we used to when our boys were still here at home.

A coyote could’ve attacked any of them over the years, and my FIL’s dog WAS in a dust-up with coyote a number of years ago and survived it, though with numerous stitches and a new-found respect for coyotes, LOL!

I guess according to this dopey author, I’m eeeeeeeeevil because I dispatched the raccoon that killed five of my chickens? Piffle!

Get out of the office once in a while, Sweetheart. There’s a whole ‘Big, Bad Natural World’ out there that you can only imagine. And it’s more vicious and heartless than any ‘bleeding-heart scenario’ you can cook up, LOL!


16 posted on 10/10/2007 8:56:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: AIM-54
"Tying a dog out, as cruel as it seems, is not “baiting""

Perhaps it's not deliberate 'baiting', but it certainly is stupid. Puppies cannot defend themselves against much of anything, let alone mountain lions.

Well, we can't blame a guy for his stupidity now can we? /sarc. ;)

Here in Michigan we're having trouble with coyotes killing pets. I wouldn't tie a dog out in the day time if I lived in a rural area or on the edge of a city.

17 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:28 AM PDT by madison10
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To: george76
Darn Wendy, I thought this was going to be a PETA thread. I haven't slaughtered a lamb for the barbie in a long while.

5.56mm

18 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:47 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: george76

However,he failed to observe the golden rule.
SHOOT-SHOVEL-SHUT UP.


19 posted on 10/10/2007 9:01:01 AM PDT by managusta (Light travels faster then sound !This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: ChocChipCookie

“It’s not cool to leave dogs chained up outside at any time of the day or night”

Why? Is it only appropiate to bring them inside and let them crawl into bed with you?

yes dogs need exercise and should not be left on chain all the time. Keeping them on a proper chain is not cruel. No more cruel then keeping them in a small kennel.


20 posted on 10/10/2007 9:02:27 AM PDT by driftdiver
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