Posted on 10/09/2007 7:07:34 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
This weekend, I attended and spoke at the Second Amendment Foundations annual Gun Rights Policy Conference, which was held at a convention center in northern Kentucky, a few miles away from Cincinnati. What I saw and heard there changed my mind about the viability of Ron Pauls presidential candidacy; Paul is going to far outperform the expectations laid out for him.
First, for some background: twenty years ago, the Second Amendment Foundation (the second-largest pro-Second Amendment group in the U.S.) began sponsoring an annual Gun Rights Policy Conference, in conjunction with other pro-gun groups, including the NRA. For a full working day on Saturday, and half a day on Sunday, the conference features 10-15 minute speeches by writers, radio hosts, group leaders, and other pro-2d Amendment activists.
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Not only did this conversation not take place, but anybody dumb enough to actually believe such a (thoroughly moronic) conversation ever took place should have their voting rights permanently revoked.
Is this really what trolling has come to? I think we should observe a moment of silence for the lost art of subtle manipulation...
See the post immediately after yours (#35).
Were you standing in the lobby of the KDR house at U of I during their victory over Wisconsin on Saturday? Cause that’s where my son and I were.
You'd better pray he doesn't find out firsthand.
I try to be a realist.
I got similar response a few weeks ago when I pointed out our government is employing a fascist economic model particularly in the Department of Agriculture. It made people mad because we are taught since we were young that fascism = Nazi. Not true. If you learn about fascism as an economic model you see that many parts of our Government use it. And in fact if you ask people if they like those parts of the economy without describing it as fascism they like it (I’m not one of those). I have a theory that as long as you never use the word ‘fascism’ but describe it to the random person on the street they would love it.
Sorry to get so long winded but the same situation exists with our Constitution. We are taught since we were children how great it is and that our Government is ruled by the Constitution. Below is part of the response I gave to another person who disagreed with me that we don’t use our Constitution:
. . .tell me about our States Rights today?
Tell me how agriculture department rules controlling the price of milk fit into the Constitution.
Tell me where foreign aid fits into the Constitution.
Tell me where the Federal Education Department fits into the Constitution.
Tell me why the Federal Government can tell a farmer how much wheat he can grow?
Tell me how the City of Chicago can outlaw handgun ownership?
We dont follow the Constitution. We use the parts that are convenient to us. We ignore those parts that are inconvenient.
Santa Claus isn’t real and we don’t follow our Constitution.
Finally it’s poor manners to call someone a liar.
So you like the Constitution now? Because just last weekend at the kegger at the Phi Lamba Epsilon house after the big win by the home team, you were telling your Paul supporting son with the sterling credentials that it was nice once upon a time, but we didn’t need it anymore.
“. . .tell me about our States Rights today?
Tell me how agriculture department rules controlling the price of milk fit into the Constitution.
Tell me where foreign aid fits into the Constitution.
Tell me where the Federal Education Department fits into the Constitution.
Tell me why the Federal Government can tell a farmer how much wheat he can grow?
Tell me how the City of Chicago can outlaw handgun ownership?
We dont follow the Constitution. We use the parts that are convenient to us. We ignore those parts that are inconvenient.
Please tell me where I’m wrong.
“it was nice once upon a time, but we didnt need it anymore.”
In a pure Machovelian sense, that is correct.
Look around you, we don’t follow our Constitution. Yet under the leadership of the Democrat and Republican Parties the United States has become the most wealthy and powerful empire the world has known since Rome.
So you have the Paulestinian list of Constitutional grievances committed to memory, yet you believe we’re better off and more prosperous for having ignored it.
Sell crazy someplace else. This game is tiresome.
Passionate? Yes.
Numerous? No.
Perhaps Hitlery will invite you to her inauguration.
>> tried to tell him that the world has changed and that the Constitution was good back in the past but its out of date and that we dont need to use it anymore.
IBTZ...

Don’t confuse NRO (online) with National Review. They aren’t the same and the dead tree version is by far and away the better of the two. NRO ends up with stuff that isn’t worth wasting paper and ink on.
>>We dont follow the Constitution. We use the parts that are convenient to us. We ignore those parts that are inconvenient.
So are you saying that “what is, is what ought to be”?
That Hegelian political philosophy caused no end of trouble in the 20th and early 21st cenuries.
A Rupaul self-portrait.
Note the tagline ...
>>”I am no longer voting until R... and C.... are free”>>>>
Well that’ll do it!
Well, why publish left-wing and RINO crap at all?
“So are you saying that what is, is what ought to be?”
Oh, dear God no!
But if everyone understood what is really happening maybe we could reverse it.
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