The "Not So Poor" 12 Year Old Who Rebutted Bush on SCHIP Veto

Multiple, Baltimore Sun ^ | 10-07-07 | self

[SauronOfMordor]

A quit claim deed. It seems it's most often used to transfer property between family members

How much you want to bet that the father of the kids was working mostly off the books for the wealthy grandfather, fixing up the grandfather's properties for resale? Meanwhile the grandfather could pay for the grandkids education at the expensive private school

[OneCitizen]

I share your suspicion to some extent (although I think it more likely that the wealthy elders were just subsidizing the youngers so they didn’t need to be in the real world worrying about money). If we are correct, these folks are stinkers and pretty damned arrogant to think they could get away with being so high profile.

[shhrubbery!]

Ok, thanks for your answers, and you're all right, it looks like the quit-claim deed was an in-family transfer. The "grantor" was Halsey Frost and the "grantees" were Halsey Frost and Bonnie Frost.

Also a re-fi was recorded on the same day in 2005 and I believe they took some equity out at the same time, around a year and a half post-accident iirc.

Now whether they used any of those $$$ to help pay medical expenses --or got to spend it all on other things, while we taxpayers footed their medical bills-- is a BIG question for taxpayers, imo.

It's OUR money, so it's OUR business.

(Btw, there are many, many documents on public record for that property --you have to register to use the site, however; and, it's timed and keeps bouncing you out if you have to leave the computer for a few minutes.)

[Dinah Lord]

for the chilrun bump.
kudos to icwhatudo

[B-Chan]

We are a solidly middle-class family of three. I am self-employed and cannot afford medical insurance. Mrs Chan works for our family business, which has no employee health insurance (too expensive). She and Baby Chan (whose birth I will likely be in debt for until I die) are covered under an old COBRA plan from my last day job, but when that's over we're all out in the cold, insurance-wise. (And Baby Chan's ob-gyn and maternity costs wouldn't have been covered by any private insurer anyway.) We make considerably more than $45,000 a year between us; even so, we have yet to find a health insurance plan that we can afford that will accept a family with a baby.

We do not live extravagantly. We own a solid, red-brick 1952 rambler of 1300 ft² that we are renovating little by little, which is located in a old center-city neighborhood. I have a BMW (a 1984 318i, 200,000 miles±) and she drives our Toyota (a 1995 4Runner, 195,000± miles), both paid for, with full-coverage insurance (a necessity in a state where the roads are full of unlicensed, unisured illegal alien drivers.) We have no dogs, no Tivo, no boat, and no plasma TV. We live frugally.

And we still can't afford health insurance.

Something's wrong. I'm not saying that Hillary is right, and I'm not claiming that the Frost family deserves government-sponsored health care — but when a hardworking, frugal middle-class family such as we cannot find affordable health insurance, something is wrong.

[worst-case scenario]

Since it’s our money, perhaps someone who lives in their state can sue them for fraud.

They thought they had trouble before with just a simple car accident. Wait until they are being sued and having all their personal financial details searched out and published. His business can probably be driven into bankruptcy from the bad press.

They would make a good object lesson to any other moonbat who wants to let themselves get used by Dims.

[shhrubbery!]

Oops, minor correction to my #323: The SUV accident was in December 2004, and the re-fi equity deal in September 2005.

So it was an interval of about nine months, not a year and a half.

[OneCitizen]

You haven’t given us enough information. What is your profession? Could you or your wife not get some kind of job with health insurance coverage through the employer? You really cannot expect other taxpayers to subsidize your desire to be your own boss. We all know people who plod on in jobs they don’t like, jobs that don’t have much in the way of opportunity. Maybe you have to take one of those that provides health insurance. Can’t you get a job at a Post Office? They have health insurance coverage and there are many Americans living on a Post Office salary.

[darkangel82]

Something is definitely wrong, the question is, how do we find out what.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

My poor immigrant grandmother had a saying that applies exactly to this story: the more you stir it, the worse it smells.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

My poor immigrant grandmother had a saying that applies exactly to this story: the more you stir it, the worse it smells.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

Thanks to $90,000,000 in punitive taxation, little Billy was able to triumph over Anorexia.

[eleni121]

What can I say...superb investigation!

Here is the poster family for liberal left: granite countertops for me, and everyone else pay for my health insurance!

[Mears]

After raising 5 kids,and some years were struggles,and now with 6 grandchildren,I’ll be damned if I’ll let my cigarettes be taxed more to pay for some other kids to have medical coverage.

We always paid our own way and I’ll become a law breakin’ tax evader if they try to make the smokers pay for SCHIP for the middle class.

(The Damn Yankees are rallying so I’m stressed right now)

Sorry !

[Eric Blair 2084]

Are they. I have it on Tivo. I had given up. Let me check it out and get back to you.

[danamco]

Needs to be sent to the conservative radio hosts too.

It can't get published any higher!

Rush Limbaugh mentioned it at length on his radio program this afternoon!!

Even we the FReepers were credited for the revelation. Just remember how fast "buckhead" exposed dan blather's faked documents of GWB before the 60-minutes program was over. Kudos to everybody!!!

[shhrubbery!]

Wait until they are being sued and having all their personal financial details searched out and published.

I doubt very much they'll be sued. Probably Maryland's standards for doling out welfare money are so low, they didn't do anything "wrong" --under Maryland law.

While I don't wish them ill (for the sake of the chilrun), I DO wish they would feel at least a LITTLE shame for sponging off the taxpayer.

But I'm afraid the days are gone where most people felt shame at sucking at the public teat (and would eat nothing but beans and rice for a year, if that's what it took to avoid it).

[danamco]

1 bathroom for 6 people, is this located n Africa???

[NaughtiusMaximus]

Here is the poster family for liberal left: granite countertops for me, and everyone else pay for my health insurance!

Me too! Me some Free Stuff too! LOL!

[Lancey Howard]

But I'm afraid the days are gone where most people felt shame at sucking at the public teat (and would eat nothing but beans and rice for a year, if that's what it took to avoid it).

My Dad got paid at the end of the month during the early '60s, and there were times when my mother fed her five boys hot dog and baked bean dinners for the last three days of the month.

Nowadays, the welfare-Democrats are driving Escalades.