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Naked Men: The ManKind Project and Michael Scinto
The Houston Press ^ | 10-04-07 | Chris Vogel

Posted on 10/06/2007 5:53:22 AM PDT by i_dont_chat

The organization was supposed to make him a better man. Instead, his parents say, it made him a dead one.

The ManKind Project offers trainings which support men in developing lives of integrity, accountability and connection to feeling."

— From The ManKind Project Web site

"They had three naked men bring out two chickens that they hit with a ­hammer."

— Michael Scinto in a letter to a ­Madison County sheriff's deputy.

Michael Scinto was literally scared to death.

On an isolated 11-acre compound down a winding, country dirt road 110 miles north of Houston, Scinto watched as the leader of the men's group instructed him and nearly 40 other strangers in the room. Put one foot on the carpet. Make sure to keep that foot on the carpet at all times. The leader then began grilling them about who makes them mad.

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(Excerpt) Read more at houstonpress.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beatingchickens; chickens; hazing; houston; intimidation; mankind; mankindproject; masculinity; poultry; project; ronnieearl; warriors
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Is this a scam? Is this a scheme to avoid income tax? Is this the illegal practice of group therapy without a license?
1 posted on 10/06/2007 5:53:23 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: i_dont_chat

Sounds gay to me.


2 posted on 10/06/2007 5:55:32 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: i_dont_chat

My opinion, this is a scam, a confidence scheme to get money from men who have the mental and emotional maturity of adolescents. And 12-step recovery groups are full of prospects. This exposure is a warning.

The article states that there are many prominent men in the Houston who are members of this secret society — and by their silence, they refuse to admit it. I don’t know if they are afraid or ashamed! But it speaks volumes as to their emotional immaturity.


3 posted on 10/06/2007 6:02:50 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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"They had three naked men bring out two chickens that they hit with a ­hammer."

Bopping naked men carrying chickens sounds reasonable.

4 posted on 10/06/2007 6:14:15 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: i_dont_chat

I don’t need any help being a man. Particularly from some guy who asks me to take my clothes off. Somebody’s BS meter needs attention.


5 posted on 10/06/2007 6:14:45 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: i_dont_chat

Lots of opportunity for blackmail.


6 posted on 10/06/2007 6:27:53 AM PDT by donna (Whoopi on Communism: “We haven’t given it enough time.”)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yeah, sounds gay to me, too.


7 posted on 10/06/2007 6:32:41 AM PDT by Contra
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To: muir_redwoods
"Somebody’s BS meter needs attention."

Heh. But BS meters are scientologistic toys.

8 posted on 10/06/2007 6:35:51 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Larry Lucido
"Sounds gay to me."

Hammer and chicken? Sounds sado to me. I think choking the chicken would have more therapuetic value.

9 posted on 10/06/2007 6:41:08 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: i_dont_chat
What’s so scary about hitting a chicken with a hammer?

(I believe that is the first time that sentence has never been written)

10 posted on 10/06/2007 7:05:15 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

(I believe that is the first time that sentence has ever been written)


11 posted on 10/06/2007 7:05:54 AM PDT by DManA
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To: i_dont_chat
Thanks for posting this article.

There's an interesting name connected to this "ManKind Project" - but I'll let Freepers click the link and scroll to the bottom of the first page of the article.

12 posted on 10/06/2007 7:13:06 AM PDT by willieroe
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To: i_dont_chat
Fascinating little tidbit at the bottom of page 1 of the article:

Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle's name was also on the list. When contacted by the Press, he declined to comment.

}:-)4

13 posted on 10/06/2007 7:16:45 AM PDT by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: Eastbound

Hey! This is a family forum.

I believe that you should refer to that as: Restricting the upper-respiratory airflow of the barnyard fowl.


14 posted on 10/06/2007 7:57:06 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: i_dont_chat

It’s a cult. Do a search for this and the horror stories for families. If people want out, they get pursued.

Appears they unlawfully imprisoned this man as well.

If you read further into the article, the national spokesperson admits the naked rituals are real parts of this organization.


15 posted on 10/06/2007 8:20:27 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Moose4; willieroe
Willieroe: "Fascinating little tidbit at the bottom of page 1 of the article:"

Moose4: "Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle's name was also on the list. When contacted by the Press, he declined to comment.

I wonder if Roonie Earle was recruited into the program from a previous or pre-existing membership in a "twelve step" program, like AA.

16 posted on 10/06/2007 8:30:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Larry Lucido
Sounds gay to me.

Your suspicions would appear to be correct - further into the article:

According to the 1998 protocol manual obtained by the Press, leaders are told the exact language they are to use when talking to initiates, right down to when they are supposed to pause in the middle of a sentence. When greeting a new member, the staff is told to "get in his face, hard and clear," and to "hold it for 15 to 30 seconds." Some training centers use buckets instead of toilets, which have "more therapeutic value in terms of dealing with shame." Activities include feelings exercises where the men are encouraged to growl and shove each other's shoulders. "Cock Talk" is when the men put on their "dancing clothes," meaning get naked, and pass around an erect phallus made of wood. Whoever holds the penis gets to share his sexual past or issues. ...
At one point, says Mary, her husband and the other men were blindfolded and marched into a large room, where they were told to take off their clothes. Drums were beating in the background, and when the men were told to remove their blindfolds, "he saw 50 or 60 naked men dancing on a stage in a circle," she says. "They call this 'The Dance,' and my husband said they started playing rock and roll music and some of the men were just dancing like they were obsessed." This moment, however, paled in comparison to how uncomfortable Mary's husband felt the following day. "They were all in the sweat lodge on Sunday," she says, "which he actually enjoyed. It was the first moment he had to relax in days after going through such a high-drama weekend where they pound you to reveal your deep, dark stuff. So, everyone was sitting Indian-style in a big circle in the lodge when the man leading the group said, 'If you wish, you may reach over and grab your brother's dick. If your brother doesn't want your hand there, he can remove it.' Well, my husband told me he just froze. And from that point on, he just wanted out."

17 posted on 10/06/2007 8:44:54 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: muir_redwoods

The group has their propagandists on that news site commenting about a what a great experience it was for them and attacking the “bias” of the article. Of course, they don’t respond to the fact that they obtained much of the information from the manuals and the documents that this family was able to download from the site by getting in with the deceased mans password. These people are brainwashed.


18 posted on 10/06/2007 9:11:09 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ExpatGator

That would work! Good thinking.


19 posted on 10/06/2007 9:49:34 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: DManA
(I believe that is the first time that sentence has never been written)

Probably so...this is history!

20 posted on 10/06/2007 9:53:24 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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