Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC
Its pretty clear Hillary Clinton needs Rudy Guiliani to be the GOP nominee if she’s going to win come 08.
I know I won’t vote for him.
Not according to the most current polls I've been seeing. Rudy doesn't have a chance against Hillary.
If he really cared about conservatism, he'd drop out. But of course, he doesn't care, since he is actually a liberal.
Every party picks a candidate, but they also pick a platform at convention. GUARANTEED, stem cell research will be in the Dem’s, but voices like yours could keep it OUT of the GOP platform (which it will, maybe even denouncing stem cell, abortion, etc.).
That compromise brings you to the polls to vote AGAINST the sure-bet.
If the choice is between two pro abortion candidates for president, why would you make the choice that effectively destroys the prolife movement in the Republican Party? How will that save any babies?
I don't think that argument holds water since Republican presidents are responsible for Justices as bad or worse than Clinton's two choices. That's why many pro-lifers will feel free to vote 3rd party should Giuliani be the Republican nominee - they know it is 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, and Hillary will not lie to them to get their vote like Rudy has.
It’s a weird year, with no VP running, with war in two theaters, terrorist dangers at home, a potential 3rd and 4th term for Bill Clinton, universal healthcare, ect.
A very unique time.
As Rush Limbaugh has often had to explain to folks like you, there are only the Right and the Left, and everything in between are simply confused or cowards. That may well be a lot of folk, but when push comes to shove they don't want more confused or cowards to lead us. They want something only a person of integrity can deliver.
However, after primaries and such, you really have only two choices during the general.
So, which way are you going to help carry the ball, right or left? Canot leave the field and also have an effect the the direction of the ball.
I am much happeir moving the ball a few inches to the right than a few yards to the left.
Dude, you don’t get it.
If Rudy911 wins the nod, there is no point left to the GOP in 2008, none.
I don’t care about the platform of a party headed by Liberals. It is not relevant to me as a Conservative.
No allowing Hillary to win is the only way to have a chance a conservative President in four years. Giuliani would guarantee a liberal in the White House for eight years.
Worse, a Giuliani Presidency assures a shrinking Republican minority in Congress while a Hillary Presidency sets the stage for Republicans to retake Congress as soon as 2010.
your post is totaly wrong you should refer to her as her Royal Thighness, shees get it right will ya. everything else is on the money, but some people just cant see past one issue. Say hello to President Hitlery.
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So we are agreed: Hillary it is.
I’ll only posting to you because your’s was the last as I waded through all 104 posts.
There sure is going to be a lot of cheering on FreeRepublic when Hillery gets elected.
But not from me. I’ll vote - not for the perfect candidate - but for the one that hits most of my important issues.
46 to 44 means Rudy can't win? 2 points behind over a year before the election means he can't win?
What are you smoking?
So, what you're saying is that someone who stands a PRINCIPLE is a stupid useful idiot? Lets say we hold our noses, and vote for Rudy. Then what do we have? A President that will want our guns, let gay marriages foster, and most importantly appoint liberals to the Supreme Court. Whats the difference????
I dont advocate "losing to win", but when the choices are a liberal for president and a liberal for president, maybe its better to vote your conscience and send a message to the GOP that they CAN NOT win the White House without their core base!!!! If Hillary is the winner of the spoils, so be it..... We seemed to do ok politically with Bill in office (Senate takeover, House expansion, etc), I think the backlash would be even more stark with Hillary in there. The Dems might not win the Senate back for 20 more years after 2010.
The GOP will keep pushing and pushing towards the center until its indistinguishable from the Dems. How does that make us the "winner"? We need to push the GOP the other way, to the right. We do that by showing that we actually have standards and actually have a line that we cant cross (2 or 3 lines in this case).
And we make fun of the blacks when they have a 90% buy in rate with the Dems, but we're being asked to do the same thing.
Sometimes you can lose the battle, but win the war, or win the battle and lose the war!!
Your comments are wise and appreciated. However, we can not (or maybe we can) vote for a POTUS on ONE certain special issue. (not a Rudy supporter, just someone who wonders why there are so many ONE ISSUE Repubs)
I would also pay a few professional trolls to post anti-Rudy stuff on FR too.
However, sitting out an election because the candidate is insufficiently conservative does nothing, absolutely nothinmg, to advance those same values. Rather, it guarantees just the opposite, further slide to the left. But you know that, or I hope you do. Do you?
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