Posted on 09/28/2007 5:37:09 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Dems Hot Over Rush's 'Phony Troops' Comment Talk Show Host Draws Fire
POSTED: 7:54 am EDT September 28, 2007 UPDATED: 8:22 am EDT September 28, 2007 The war of words over the conflict in Iraq took a new turn Thursday as Democrats in Congress excoriated radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh for calling some soldiers "phony troops."
Limbaugh had argued with a caller on Wednesday about when U.S. troops ought to be brought home. The caller, who identified himself as "Mike" from Chicago and said he was an a Iraq veteran and a Republican, pushed Limbaugh on whether the occupation in Iraq would last forever.
Limbaugh and his next caller, who also said he was in the military, both referred to soldiers who criticize the war and urge that troops be brought home as "phony troops."
The exchange came a week after the Senate passed a resolution condemning the anti-war group MoveOn for an ad in the New York Times that asked whether Gen. David Petraeus, in testimony before Congress, would be "General Betray-us." The House passed a similar resolution this week.
Rep. Patrick Murphy, D-Pa., an Iraq veteran critical of the war, scolded Limbaugh in a Thursday column on the HuffingtonPost.com Web site.
"When someone like Rush Limbaugh says that soldiers who disagree with the failed strategies of President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are 'phony soldiers,' you have to consider the source," he wrote.
"Rush Limbaugh, who, in January, called Vietnam veteran Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., 'Senator Betrayus' for disagreeing with President Bush, has made no secret of his disdain for those who serve and speak out. Where was Rush Limbaugh when it came time to serve his country?"
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Patrick who ? LOL
Murphy was an army lawyer, not a soldier. Plus, he’s an airhead.
It seems there is a strong defeatist strain among some people who served in Vietnam.
Troops have a right to disagree but these aspiring John Kerry’s are often not just offering their opinions but instead actively trying undermine the war effort and are making the jobs of those still in the combat zone who do not have the luxury of a air conditioned CNN green room to wait in till it is their turn to have their say much harder. What about their feelings and long term mental health? If anything Harry Reid and the Democrats don’t want to hear from the vast majority of troops that want to win this war and believe in what they are doing.
When one crosses the line from tempered personal opinions to joining the anti-war effort they are no longer soldiers and it is doubtful that they ever really were. The real soldiers know their mission and that mission is not to embrace failure. The last thing the troops on the ground need is some malcontent veteran casting doubt on what they are doing.
How many soldiers must come home to the stress of living in a nation of traitors and cowards that do not respect them? How many soldiers must commit suicide because of the stress brought on by a media that has more consideration for the feelings of terrorists than for the soldiers that put their lives on the line for them? Sure they speak of concern for the soldiers dieing but if our soldiers were deployed to some strategically insignificant place like Dafur under a liberal administration we’d be hard pressed to find statistics on the dead soldiers let alone a daily count.
They count off the dead not because they respect them but because they see the dead soldiers as patriotic fools and dupes. They do not wish to bring them home so they can be honored and showered with love and respect but so they can spit on them and stamp out every last bit of dignity not only of the soldiers but of this very nation.
We should not sit by as vapid fools redefine cowardice as bravery and sedition as patriotism. We should all take a moment to speak to others about what a good job our soldiers are doing in Iraq and how we support them. Losing is only an option for those who don’t understand what we are fighting for.
Remember the time he took down a whole congress full of democrats, single-handed?
So you are a Hillary fan. So what?
Pathetic cheap shot, buddy. DU is so proud of you!
Brian Ross and Vic Walter Report:
A Washington man, whose claims to have slaughtered civilians as a U.S. Army Ranger in Iraq were seen by millions on YouTube, admitted in federal court in Seattle today that he was a fake and a liar. Jesse Adam Macbeth, 23, pleaded guilty to charges he faked his war record. "He was in the Army for 40 days before he was kicked out of boot camp for being unfit," said U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Sullivan. "He was never in Iraq."
just because he doesnt worship at the rush altar ?
oh - thats right I forgot ----this is FR - Fred/Rush 24/7....no sarcasm allowed
Moveon.org got their new talking points this week. I’ve noticed all week, there has been a rash of callers to Rush and Sean’s shows claiming to be in the military and against the war & claiming to be life-long Republicans and against the war. It’s so transparent.
I know a guy that is a member of moveon & I’d bet anything he got his email urging him to do just that. He’d never admit to it though - cause it’s a “secret”.
Dip**** Supreme.
I heard Rush’s show that day. This Mike from Chicago guy, was a punk. He was trying to trick Rush into saying something that could be used against him. If was obvious. Rush knew it and called him on it.
All soldiers are not perfect honorable smart men. There are some few punks among them. Mike is one of those punks. (If he’s even a soldier.)
And we should stop being civil to those who do.
Every American has the right to express their views and opinions. Soldiers and veterans have no more and no less right to do this. If a person did not serve, or served in a support (i.e. non-combat) role, this is not pejorative unless they evaded service illegally or immorally (e.g. former President Clinton). This said, I feel that it is generally inappropriate for a soldier or veteran to mention their military service in the context of expressing their views unless that experience gives them a particular understanding or experience in regards to the issue they are discussing. Falsifying one’s military experience and making false statements concerning a conflict while presenting one’s military experience as a basis to speak authoritatively (e.g. Senator Kerry) are, of course, reprehensible. Senator Kerry’s activities are, I think, particularly relevant. If he indeed had knowledge of the acts he claims to have occurred, he should have informed the authorities at the time. Making these claims only later, and in the context of a political debate, renders them immediately suspect. And, as some posters have noted, this kind of “testimony” is not uncommon.
BALONY. I listened to that show and that caller was a whiner and Rush called him out. Rush is the military’s biggest supporters and most of the military and vets know where he stands.
“”Rush Limbaugh, who, in January, called Vietnam veteran Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., ‘Senator Betrayus’”
A caller said that and Rush commented on it. Again, trying to put words into his mouth that he didn’t say.
Chuck Hagle is a tool and he is doing all he can to undermine the President and his own party so the Dems will invite him to theirs and the press will like him.
I was in the Air Force. We don't have MOS's and ratings. We have job specialties and ranks. I'm afraid if I called in and was asked for my MOS and rating I would have to stammer through the answer as I translated Army to Air Force. I'm positive that many on this site would call me a phony as a result. Also, a lot of the 'phony soldiers' have enough military experience to answer that question anyway.
Side note, in the Air Force a 'rating' usually means you're a pilot.
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