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Bill O'Reilly says he's being smeared [boo hoo]
AP via Yahoo ^ | 9/26/07 | DAVID BAUDER,

Posted on 09/26/2007 4:00:36 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

NEW YORK - Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly said Wednesday his critics took remarks he made about a famed Harlem restaurant out of context and "fabricated a racial controversy where none exists." He criticized the liberal group Media Matters for America as "smear merchants" for publicizing statements he made on his radio show last week.

O'Reilly told his radio audience that he dined with civil rights activist Al Sharpton at Sylvia's recently and "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference" between the black-run restaurant and others in New York City.

It was just like a suburban Italian restaurant, he said. "There wasn't any kind of craziness at all," he said.

O'Reilly told The Associated Press that Media Matters had "cherry-picked" remarks out of a broader conversation about racial attitudes. He had told listeners that his grandmother — and many other white Americans — feared blacks because they didn't know any and were swayed by violent images in black culture.

"If you listened to the full hour, it was a criticism of racism on the part of white Americans who are ignorant of the fact that there is no difference between white and black anymore," he told the AP. "Circumstances may be different in their lives but we're all Americans. Anyone who would be offended by that conversation would have to be looking to be offended."

His radio show was a conversation with Fox News contributor Juan Williams, author of a book about the coarseness of some black culture. Williams defended O'Reilly during a Tuesday appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor."

"It's so frustrating," Williams said. "They want to shut you up. They want to shut up anybody who has an honest discussion about race."

The controversy was similar to one that enveloped presidential candidate Joe Biden last winter. When Biden praised rival Barack Obama as "articulate" and "clean," many saw this as a way of conveying these were unusual characteristics for blacks.

Sylvia's manager Trenness Woods-Black told the New York Daily News that O'Reilly's remarks were "insulting" and showed he has little knowledge of the black community.

At one point on the radio show, Williams mentioned that too many people see little else in black culture beyond profane rap. "That's right," O'Reilly said. "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, `M.F.-er, I want more iced tea.'"

Karl Frisch, spokesman for Media Matters, said it is typical for O'Reilly to criticize his group for merely reporting what he says.

"We didn't call him a racist," Frisch said. "We said his comments were ignorant and racially charged and we stand by that."

O'Reilly said the Williams conversation was carried on more than 400 radio stations and there wasn't one complaint from a listener.

"This isn't about a racially insensitive remark," he said. "Anybody can listen to the unedited version of the conversation on billoreilly.com. You want to think I'm insensitive to race, you go right ahead."

The real story, he said, was about the "corrupt media culture" where outlets like CNN and MSNBC do stories about his remarks "because they're getting killed in the ratings."

"The O'Reilly Factor" is seen by more people — 2.2 million average this year — than its direct competitors on MSNBC and CNN combined. MSNBC's "Countdown" with Keith Olbermann averages 721,000 viewers in the time slot while CNN's 8 p.m. show averages 611,000, according to Nielsen Media Research.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: foxnews; hatemonger; loofahman; mediamatters; oreilly; racist; smearcampaign
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To: MNJohnnie

I’ll rise to his defense. I don’t always agree with him, but he’s right this time. CNN is doing it again, and it’s wrong. They cherry-picked a few comments and drew an erroneous conclusion. Character assassination is abominable no matter who is the victim. And I have no delusions that when CNN takes on O’Reilly, they think they are weakening conservatism.

At least they air Lou Dobbs.


41 posted on 09/26/2007 4:26:52 PM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I know that what he did to FR was wrong, but his comments were not racist.
42 posted on 09/26/2007 4:27:10 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"It's so frustrating," Williams said. "They want to shut you up. They want to shut up anybody who has an honest discussion about race."

For once Juan is right. In stead of building a constructive dialog the other guy gets thrown under the bus, like Fuzzy Zoeller or Trent Lott were. It happens all the time.

People like Media Matters are not interested in clarity, honesty or reconciliation. They prefer leverage and advantage.

43 posted on 09/26/2007 4:29:48 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Who's Bill O'Reilly?

Yawn..

sw

44 posted on 09/26/2007 4:30:29 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: muawiyah
They wave too each other under the walls separating the stalls at the restrooms don’t they?

The MM people? Ya, they prolly invented it.

46 posted on 09/26/2007 4:31:38 PM PDT by period end of story (If you never go too far, you won't know the boundaries.)
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To: period end of story

Point well taken, I know about Media Matters and their agenda, but if Rush, Hannity, Savage and Coulter are used to it, Bill should get used to it, too, and stop the whining.


47 posted on 09/26/2007 4:32:19 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

OReilly is a hot head who thinks everything revolves around him.


48 posted on 09/26/2007 4:33:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: taildragger
Not wishing anything on BO at all. Merely pointing out to his sort of media talking head, you want people to stand with you when the Left comes after you, you don't slime those people when times are good for you to suck up to the Leftists.

NO one in the PC media is irreplaceable.

49 posted on 09/26/2007 4:34:04 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: ElkGroveDan
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50 posted on 09/26/2007 4:34:49 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: ElkGroveDan
I can think of a lot of liberal mutants I'd like to bring down, but anyone who takes my side I'll be glad to leave alone. As soon as Hitlery takes over you won't him to kick around anymore anyway. She'll put him up against a wall and shoot him! That be enough to please you??

By the way, isn't Elk Grove famous for it's skanks???

51 posted on 09/26/2007 4:36:01 PM PDT by Doc Savage (I have a fever,... and the only cure is more cowbell...)
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To: ElkGroveDan
oh please! if you listen to the context of the remarks, they are completely innocuous! why are we doing to bill what we accuse liberals of doing to conservatives? namely: taking words and statements out of context!

given my screenname i must say that BOR's comments about FR were laughable. he was just wrong. but it is beneath us to do the same thing we profess to hate so much.

52 posted on 09/26/2007 4:37:24 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: ElkGroveDan

Bill you ignorant slut. You alienated the very group of people that would have stood behind your arrogant ass. Defecate or get off the pot and take your medicine like a man.


53 posted on 09/26/2007 4:37:31 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Sonora

Hey, Sonora-

I like Bill, too.


54 posted on 09/26/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: ElkGroveDan; kristinn
"Bill O'Reilly said Wednesday his critics took remarks he made about a famed Harlem restaurant out of context."

This is rich. Seems like I've heard it before.

55 posted on 09/26/2007 4:37:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I find it impossible to listen to the self important clown for more than a few minutes - before having to turn him off..

His slavish attachment to Al Sharpton, coupled with his indignant response to criticism put him in a category of fool that few attain...

His final act of alienation for me - was when he championed John Kerry and accused the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as being no more than a radical group attempting to ruin a “hero’s” reputation..


56 posted on 09/26/2007 4:38:13 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. I hope he goes down.

You hope the $oros smear machine takes down a TV icon that more than half the time is on the right side. Yeah, that makes sense.

57 posted on 09/26/2007 4:40:11 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hillary for President? In the words of Bell Biv DeVoe: "Never trust a big butt and a smile!")
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To: Bahbah
BOR made a very bad mistake by using Free Republic as a contrast to the Kos site. At the time, he was gearing up to take those far Left hate sites on, much as he has done with idiotic judges. I think he badly underestimated the intensity of the hatred coming from the Left. He tried to “fair and balance” it by using FR as an example. Our Kristinn Taylor represented us most ably. BOR had ONE sheet of charges that he was waving around, and even that stuff was wrong. Bottom line, it didn’t work and BOR got burned. He ended up doing some lame thing about having a paid moderator here and that was it. That’s all he had to say, ultimately. Kos and the DUmp are sewers of filthy language, death threats against American leaders, hatred of America, etc. Free Republic should pay a moderator. Oh, OK, Bill.

WE WON.

This new thing is pure cotton candy. A few grains of sugar spun by very hot air, and then wrapped around an empty paper cone. It’s wrong and I wrote to CNN today and told them so. Media Matters would be a waste of time. I don’t like Don Imus at all, but what happened to him was just so wrong, and also, he caved in to Big Al Sharpton and the other pimps. Now, where’s Big Al? He’s at the center of this controversy, he was at the Harlem restaurant, so why isn’t he speaking out and condemning these lies? And that’s what they are, just listen to what he said for yourself. It’s all on his website.

Elk Grove Dan is looking for cliches to describe this situation. How about, “You can go to hell being right”?
I don’t want to pigpile on O’Reilly when the pigs are MM and CNN. They’d love for that to happen.

58 posted on 09/26/2007 4:41:16 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Couldn’t agree more.


59 posted on 09/26/2007 4:41:35 PM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: ElkGroveDan

BOR has a new segement on Thursdays Called “Dhuepoint”, where he responds to comments and complaints from viewers that are sent to the show “Ombudsman”, Laurie Dhue.

Anyone tried to get a mea culpa out of him through Ms Dhue?

I’m just curious as to whether he is ignoring the FReeps, or is just ignorant to the anger out here.


60 posted on 09/26/2007 4:43:18 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Ted Kennedy is "one of the most principled men I've ever met." Lindsay Graham)
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