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World Net Daily ^ | 9/25/07 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 09/25/2007 7:15:02 AM PDT by Thorin

To the hysteriacs, Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler and we are all at Munich – and we should behave like Churchill and gird for war.

This is absurd.

Hitler could destroy the Jewish population of Europe because he was able to conquer Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals. Iran has no air force or navy we could not dispatch in a week and no nukes. Israel has 200 to 300 nuclear warheads and, if it believed its survival was at stake, could turn Tehran into toast in 10 minutes.

America and Iran have great differences, but also common interests. Among the latter, no Taliban in Kabul, no restoration of a Sunni Baathist dictatorship in Baghdad and support for the present governments. Iran cannot want a Sunni-Shia war in the region, which would make her an enemy of most Arabs, and she cannot want a major war with America, which could lead to the destruction and breakup of the nation where only half the people are Persians.

That is plenty to build a cold peace on, if the hysteriacs do not stampede us into another unnecessary war.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buchanan; iran; mullahpat; patbuchanan
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To: Alberta's Child

‘Don’t blame Ahmadinejad for something that should be laid squarely at the feet of this administration. Iran became a far more potent threat to the region AFTER the U.S. invasion of Iraq than it ever was before. ‘

This is only viable if you pretend Iran didn’t exist as it does today since 1979.

Iran is the largest financial backer of global terrorism, by miles and miles and miles. Its been that way for well over a decade, and shows no signs of slowing down.

Blaming the administration for Iran’s actions that predate the administration by two full decades is ridiculous in short.


41 posted on 09/25/2007 8:07:08 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: MNJohnnie

Yep.


42 posted on 09/25/2007 8:07:49 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: SoldierDad

I seem to recall the Russkies being all about taking over the world too. How did that work out for them? You can counter Patty’s arguments, but not with those talking points.


43 posted on 09/25/2007 8:07:53 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: muleboy

Nice you have feelings. Too bad they are completely ignorant ones. Read post 32 and 39 this thread.


44 posted on 09/25/2007 8:08:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: MNJohnnie
" If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill

Amen! If only that great man were still alive to provide a stalwart companion in this war...instead of that pansy prime minister heading Britain now...

45 posted on 09/25/2007 8:10:29 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: MNJohnnie
So basically what Paddy and his Freeper stooges are advocating is we run away and hide under our beds and create a power vacuum in the ME so that the Chinese and the Russians can dominate the Western world’s Oil supply thru their proxy Iran.
woot woot! Finally somebody who's getting closer to the truth of the matter. If you'd dispense with all the silly talking points about caliphates, killing terrorists and whatnot I just might agree with you ;)
46 posted on 09/25/2007 8:10:49 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said. I just hope that it sinks in to those who heretofore have been blinded by ignorance.


47 posted on 09/25/2007 8:10:51 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Thorin
As Buchanan points out in the rest of the column, both the USSR and China were sending in weapons to kill our soldiers in Vietnam, yet we continued to talk to them.

And the alternative to talking to them was... what?

Global Thermonuclear Exchange, mebbee?

You talk to equals. You give orders to unequals...

48 posted on 09/25/2007 8:11:41 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: Thorin

>>Buchanan nails it. Iran is a Third World backwater, not a grave threat to the United States. And if it does become a threat, Israel has the military might to deal with it.<<

Iran is easily the largest supporter and supplier of state sponsored terrorism. The case for war with Iran is many times stronger than it was with Iraq.


49 posted on 09/25/2007 8:11:55 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

God how I wish General Patton was still around! This war would have been over already had Patton been in charge and had the ROE given him the opportunity to do his job...


50 posted on 09/25/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Which shows that like the Hysteric Left, the Rabid Right will under NO circumstance ever defend this nation. They are too busy clinging to their failed Neo Isolationist dogmas to realize the world has change a great deal since 1930."

You slay strawmen. Buchanan was for taking out bin Laden who attack us. If Bush and the neocons didn't cut and run from getting bin Laden dead or alive, we would be a lot safer today.

51 posted on 09/25/2007 8:13:15 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Badeye
Blaming the administration for Iran’s actions that predate the administration by two full decades is ridiculous in short.

Pretending that our problems with Iran only date back to 1979 is ridiculous, too. The U.S. had been involved in Iranian affairs all the way back in the Eisenhower administration, and we were instrumental in toppling the duly-elected Mossadegh government in the early 1950s.

52 posted on 09/25/2007 8:16:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: MNJohnnie

you may be right (now there is a scary thought)

maybe the Israelis don’t have nukes (and have only been bluffing-lying, kinda like Saddam)

that would sure explain their hyperventilating at Iran’s enrichment program


53 posted on 09/25/2007 8:17:07 AM PDT by muleboy (muleboy303.blogspot.com)
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To: gondramB
Iran is easily the largest supporter and supplier of state sponsored terrorism. The case for war with Iran is many times stronger than it was with Iraq.
And it was even stronger for North Korea. But neither Iran nor NK are "low hanging fruit" like Iraq. Iran has just enough soft and hard power now to make a US/Israeli attack not worthwhile. So now we have to deal with silly p***ing matches like we're having now until the middle east settles into its new American/Persian balance of power.
54 posted on 09/25/2007 8:17:59 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: ex-snook

One interesting aspect of the situation in the Middle East is that every criticism of the Clinton administration with regard to the threat posed by al-Qaeda would also apply to the “neo-conservative” hacks in the Defense Department under this administration.


55 posted on 09/25/2007 8:19:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: muleboy

Don’t worry your pretty little head about that. They have nukes and plenty of them.


56 posted on 09/25/2007 8:19:40 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: ex-snook

As been explained to you a few thousand times before. Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Learn the differences.


57 posted on 09/25/2007 8:20:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: MNJohnnie
As been explained to you a few thousand times before. Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Learn the differences.
lol... if Rummy had known the difference Jorge would have a 99% approval rating now.
58 posted on 09/25/2007 8:22:10 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: MNJohnnie

Buchanan was for taking out bin Laden who attack us. If Bush and the neocons didn’t cut and run from getting bin Laden dead or alive, we would be a lot safer today. Explain that one more time.


59 posted on 09/25/2007 8:23:15 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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