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UAW Workers Walk Off the Job
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 24, 2007 | John D. Stoll and Jeffrey McCracken

Posted on 09/24/2007 8:33:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Edited on 09/24/2007 8:57:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

DETROIT -- United Auto Workers union members walked out of General Motors Corp. factories in the U.S. Monday morning after bargaining over a new national labor agreement failed to produce a deal by an 11 a.m. deadline. It's the first time in more than 20 years that the UAW has staged a mass walkout in connection with company wide contract talks. But in a sign of the complex forces at work in the Detroit auto industry, GM shares were trading higher Monday on the New York Stock Exchange, as investors cheered signs that GM management might be willing to resist ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; generalmotors; gm; uaw; unions; unitedautoworkers
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To: reaganaut1
"UAW Workers Walk Off the Job"

Null and void their pensions, let them be fired for good and the whole American automotive industry can start again new and would kick some butt IMO.
161 posted on 09/24/2007 10:17:34 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: benasawin

“The union selects a limited number of facilities to strike.”

Those folks are the ones who will get $200/week, cheated out of earnings for striking. A strike that the UAW won’t fully support, already lowering the standards of living.


162 posted on 09/24/2007 10:20:03 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: benasawin

Given your scenario, why do you think the UAW chose to strike GM nationwide - every UAW employee at GM is now on strike. Is there something we can infer from this vs if they had struck the way you suggested, as they have done during all other recent strikes?


163 posted on 09/24/2007 10:20:03 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Myrddin

I fully support right to work. I also support laws that prohibit collective bargaining and strikes in the public sector as well as the repeal of laws that force companies to bargain collectively. I think that we are in agreement on these points.

I think it depends on what banning a union means. Employees can form associations if they want. In the private sector, these associations can try to bargain collectively. If a company does not want to negotiate, the company should not be compelled to bargain and recognize the union.


164 posted on 09/24/2007 10:21:12 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor
Thanks for the info, you may be right about what you said and I may have misunderstood the issue that some states do not have legislation for unions. It is very possible as you said that some states have laws that prevent strikes and collective bargaining and I think all states should adopt these laws and even make it federal laws.
165 posted on 09/24/2007 10:24:41 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: RabidBartender
speaking of which, the Kaiser alunimun plant in Millwood, Washington, near Spokane, Washington, went on strike in99 or 2000 I don’t remember exactly, but they were on strike for 2 years. The workers went bankrupt. lost their houses and some were divorced. Replacement workers came in, the police had to guard them on the way into the plant. Then the upshot of the whole thing Kaiser closed the plant and moved out. So the community lost 1,00 jobs. Washington was at one time a right to work state, but the liberal pols, given enough union money changed that. So go ahead UAW strike, I hope you strike out on three fast balls.
166 posted on 09/24/2007 10:26:20 AM PDT by balticseaviking (been there done that , Talked the talk and sure as hell walked the walk)
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To: Alberta's Child

well, GM’s workforce used to be a lot larger..until they sold off Delphi and the other parts makers.


167 posted on 09/24/2007 10:27:01 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: pepsionice

You’re dreaming. This strike is all about getting us (the US taxpayer) to bail out the UAW retiree plan. The problem is GM can’t afford to keep paying those benefits. They want the government to bail them out. This strike will last long enough for the hard luck stories to start showing up on the evening news, so when the media begins crying for the government to expand into the private retirement care business, there’ll be hardly a peep from the general public.


168 posted on 09/24/2007 10:27:58 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: balticseaviking

opps that’s 1,000 jobs


169 posted on 09/24/2007 10:27:58 AM PDT by balticseaviking (been there done that , Talked the talk and sure as hell walked the walk)
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To: BurbankKarl

Hmm, very interesting. They still ended up with all of the retirees from those companies on their rolls?


170 posted on 09/24/2007 10:28:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: old and tired

I agree that both the company and union want a taxpayer bailout. I do not see a strike as achieving a bailout. I do not see any possibility of a bailout with Bush as president. However, if the dims control the federal government, a bailout will be made regardless of a strike.

A strike may be an effort by the union leaders not to appear weak. I do not think that GM will add much to the health care fund even after a bitter strike. Union leaders may be more concerned about their jobs and standing among union members than achieving anything at the bargaining table.


171 posted on 09/24/2007 10:35:59 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Gay State Conservative
"My money's on the UAW leadership deciding that "if we're going down we'll take them with us".

Most of their actions point to that very conclusion.

172 posted on 09/24/2007 10:36:00 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Son House

Simple: not every GM plant is UAW represented. Ripple effect impacts other operations as well as any other union or non-union operation that suffers as a result of the UAW represented plants going on strike.
End result: those choosing to strike do so without benefit of state ran workman’s comp support while employes laidoff as a result of lost demand for their services are eligible.
The impact can run very deep.


173 posted on 09/24/2007 10:36:58 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: balticseaviking

Big Money;

http://www.unionfacts.com/unions/unionOfficers.cfm?id=233&year=2006

American Nurses Association (ANA)
National Headquarters Officers & Employees

Name Title Total Compensation

Linda Stierle Ceo $ 471,049
Jeanne Floyd Exec $ 285,459


174 posted on 09/24/2007 10:38:59 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: businessprofessor
I do not see any possibility of a bailout with Bush as president.

Really? Even with all the other things he's caved on? The guy doesn't seem to have a problem expanding government or spending money. I'm curious as to why you don't think Bush will spend a few billion to bail them out? Seriously, I'm not trying to be contentious. I hope you're right and I hope a conservative gets in in 2008.

175 posted on 09/24/2007 10:40:34 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: green iguana

Yes, UAW has struck GM nationwide but not all GM plants are UAW. Those plants and other operations, union and nonunion, will eventually feel the impact of this strike.
When impact hits a level resulting in loss of jobs, those individuals become eligible.


176 posted on 09/24/2007 10:43:16 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: reaganaut1

Oh how I wish GM would give them 24 hours to return to work or they’d start hiring new non-union employees. If they did that I’d have to go buy a new GM truck. C’mon GM, bust the union. Short term pain, long term gain.


177 posted on 09/24/2007 10:47:37 AM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: jveritas

In general I don’t like unions. But unions should not be outlawed, and workers should have the right to strike. Businesses should also have the right to replace them at will.

What you are advocating would lead to a slave class. I view strikes as part of the free market system. The fact that unions get greedy and stupid has no bearing.


178 posted on 09/24/2007 10:55:41 AM PDT by bluetone006 (The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise - Tacitus)
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To: Charles Martel

When our company staffed 13 power generating plants in Illinois back in 2001 there were no “taco wagons” in hot pursuit. We were provided top notch security and we catered all meals for the employees. I should also note that we had staff from every part of the US, not just the SW. BTW...after 7 months the IBEW caved and took MWG’s original offer.


179 posted on 09/24/2007 10:56:24 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: old and tired

Bush has shown some strong signs of fiscal discipline. He is opposing SCHIPS and other spending increases. I have not seen any serious bills about a UAW bailout that are making progress in Congress. I have heard talk by dims but nothing that will lead to serious legislation while Bush is in office. In the short run, the UAW bailout demands will be overshadowed by the mortgage situation.


180 posted on 09/24/2007 10:59:32 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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