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Daily Kos: General Petraeus Wore Fraudulent Medal
Via OrbusMax.com - Little Green Footballs ^ | 9/21/07

Posted on 09/22/2007 11:31:06 AM PDT by llevrok

Tonight at Daily Kos, the new mainstream voice of the Democratic Party, they’ve found a new angle from which to attack General Petraeus: Hey, MoveOn! Petraeus Wore Fraud Medal At Testimony.

Examining General Petraeus’s medals, his official bios and then comparing three reports of events on 3/30/2003 in Najaf, Iraq - two by prize-winning embedded journalists and one understood to be by Army personnel (which document this diarist will produce to a responsible party at any time) - this diarist cannot conclude other than that General David Petraeus wore a medal for combat valor in his testimony before Congress that was a sham, propaganda and a dishonor to his troops and nation.

I will be extremely surprised if there is anything to these charges, but it’s not my area of expertise, so LGF military lizards—please weigh in.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: idiots; kos; kossuckers; lunatics; militaryhaters; moonbats; nutcase; petraeus; psychosis
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To: llevrok
I don’t know about this but does a general really have time to put those ribbons on his tunic himself?
121 posted on 09/22/2007 2:15:21 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Michael.SF.

Hillaryous!


122 posted on 09/22/2007 2:20:37 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: isrul

Under President Bill C, anything and everything was possible. It was said Boorda used his son in laws pistola.

Lots of fallen bodies during the Clinton years.


123 posted on 09/22/2007 2:24:04 PM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

What are you 12? ROTFLMAO!


124 posted on 09/22/2007 2:24:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MNJohnnie

Just, . . . wow. Most soldiers would be honored (and fortunate) to have just one of those.


125 posted on 09/22/2007 2:25:34 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: magellan

Even if they are claiming you have to be under direct fire, read Rick Atkinson’s book, “In the Company of Soldiers,” and he relates an incident he witnessed in which Petraeus and some of his staff stopped a Humvee, spread out maps, and were looking at positions when they came under (as I recall) mortar fire. They did not take cover. After a minute, Patton-style, Petraeus pulled out his sidearm and went in the direction of the incoming. By that time, other soldiers had eliminated the threat.


126 posted on 09/22/2007 2:30:51 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: 91B

Is it possible to imagine that in a 30 year career he might have just picked up the medal as a junior officer?


127 posted on 09/22/2007 2:31:28 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: rineaux
As others pointed out, Kerry has 3 purple hearts. Self inflicted wounds.

And the third evolution of Kerry's Silver Star award contains the words "with V device" - - never happened - - no such thing.
128 posted on 09/22/2007 2:35:02 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: llevrok

Of course 4 star generals usually wear medals that they never earned, especially when they are testifying to Congress and the world is watching.

What the heck do 4 star generals know about medals anyway?

We should all thank our lucky stars that there is Daily Kos to advise us on such matters.


129 posted on 09/22/2007 2:36:38 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: A.A. Cunningham; coffee260

You get an Article 15 or above and you get NO Good Conduct Medal - - all else qualify - - it’s for “good conduct.”


130 posted on 09/22/2007 2:41:55 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: ConorMacNessa
John F’in Kerry was so dumb he wore a Combat “V” with his Silver Star, which I believe he got for shooting a guy in the back.

The award, the document that accompanies Kerry's Silver Star medal, went through three iterations - - each successive iteration more favorable to himself - - the final, 3rd iteration of Kerry's Silver Star, contains the words, "with 'V' device" - - ain't no such thing.
131 posted on 09/22/2007 2:48:55 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: llevrok

Lieutenant General DAVID H. PETRAEUS
United States Army

(May 2004- )

SOURCE OF COMMISSIONED SERVICE USMA

MILITARY SCHOOLS ATTENDED
Infantry Officer Basic and Advanced Courses
Armor Officer Advanced Course
United States Army Command and General Staff College
Senior Service College Fellowship - Georgetown University

EDUCATIONAL DEGREES
United States Military Academy - BS - No Major
Princeton University - MPA - International Relations
Princeton University - Ph.D. - International Relations

FOREIGN LANGUAGE(S) None recorded

PROMOTIONS DATES OF APPOINTMENT

2LT 5 Jun 74
1LT 5 Jun 76
CPT 8 Aug 78
MAJ 1 Aug 85
LTC 1 Apr 91
COL 1 Sep 95
BG 1 Jan 00
MG 1 Jan 03
LTG 18 May 04

MAJOR DUTY ASSIGNMENTS

FROM TO ASSIGNMENT

May 75 Jan 79 Platoon Leader, C Company, later S-4 (Logistics), later S-1 (Personnel), 509th Airborne Battalion Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy
Jan 79 Jul 79 Assistant S-3 (Operations), 2d Brigade, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Stewart, Georgia
Jul 79 May 81 Commander, A Company, later S-3 (Operations), 2d Battalion, 19th Infantry, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Stewart, Georgia
May 81 May 82 Aide-de-Camp to the Division Commander, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Stewart, Georgia
May 82 Jun 83 Student, United States Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas
Jun 83 Jun 85 Student, Princeton University, Princeton, New Jersey
Jul 85 Jun 87 Instructor, later Assistant Professor, Department of Social Sciences, United States Military Academy, West Point, New York
Jun 87 Jun 88 Military Assistant to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Supreme Headquarters, Allied Powers Europe, Belgium
Jun 88 Jun 89 S-3 (Operations), 2d Battalion, 30th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division
(Mechanized), United States Army Europe, Germany
Jun 89 Aug 89 S-3 (Operations), 1st Brigade, 3d Infantry Division (Mechanized), United States Army Europe, Germany
Aug 89 Aug 91 Aide/Assistant Executive Officer to the Chief of Staff, United States
Army, Washington DC
Aug 91 Jul 93 Commander, 3d Battalion, 187th Infantry, 101st Airborne Division
(Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky
Jul 93 Jul 94 G-3 (Operations)/Director of Plans, Training and Mobilization,
101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky
Aug 94 Jan 95 Senior Service College Fellow, Georgetown University, Washington, DC
Jan 95 Jun 95 Chief Operations Officer, UN Mission in Haiti, OPERATION UPHOLD DEMOCRACY, Haiti
Jun 95 Jun 97 Commander, 1st Brigade, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg,
North Carolina
Jun 97 Sep 97 Executive Assistant to the Director of the Joint Staff, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC
Oct 97 Aug 99 Executive Assistant to the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, DC
Aug 99 Jul 00 Assistant Division Commander (Operations), 82d Airborne Division,
Fort Bragg, North Carolina and Commanding General, CJTF-Kuwait, (Forward), OPERATION DESERT SPRING, Kuwait
Jul 00 Aug 00 Acting Commanding General, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg,
North Carolina
Aug 00 Jun 01 Chief of Staff, XVIII Airborne Corps, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Jun 01 Jun 02 Assistant Chief of Staff for Operations, SFOR, and Deputy Commander, United States Joint Interagency Counter Terrorism Task Force, OPERATION JOINT FORGE, Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina
Jul 02 May 04 Commanding General, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) and Fort Campbell, Fort Campbell, Kentucky and deployed in support of OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, Iraq

SUMMARY OF JOINT ASSIGNMENTS Dates Grade

Military Assistant to the Supreme Allied Jun 87 - Jun 88 Major
Commander Europe, Supreme Headquarters,
Allied Powers Europe, Belgium
(Cumulative Joint Credit)

Chief Operations Officer, UN Mission in Haiti, Jan 95 - Jun 95 Lieutenant Colonel
OPERATION UPHOLD DEMOCRACY, Haiti
(No Joint Credit)

Executive Assistant to the Director, The Jun 97 - Aug 99 Colonel
Joint Staff, later Executive Assistant to the
Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Washington, DC

Commanding General, CJTF-Kuwait, (Forward), Aug 99 - Sep 99 Colonel (P)
OPERATION DESERT SPRING, Kuwait
(No Joint Credit)

Assistant Chief of Staff for Operations, SFOR, Jun 01 - Jul 02 Brigadier General/
and Deputy Commander, United States Major General
Joint Interagency Counter Terrorism Task Force,
OPERATION JOINT FORGE, Sarajevo,
Bosnia-Herzegovina (No Joint Credit)

US DECORATIONS AND BADGES

Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Legion of Merit (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Bronze Star Medal with “V” Device
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Joint Service Commendation Metal
Army Commendation Medal (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Joint Service Achievement Medal
Army Achievement Medal
Expert Infantryman Badge
Master Parachutist Badge
Air Assault Badge
Ranger Tab
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
Army Staff Identification Badge

http://www.afsouth.nato.int/JFCN_Biographies/NTM-I/LtG_Petraeus/LtG_Petraeus.htm


132 posted on 09/22/2007 2:52:34 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: MNJohnnie

“* Army Achievement Medal”

Found it. Bush’s failure in Iraq could not produce and achievement medal. Therefore it has to be bogus. /sarcasm


133 posted on 09/22/2007 2:53:20 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: 91B
Suppose he earned the CAB before he was a general Officer? Isn't he entitled to wear it after he becomes one?
134 posted on 09/22/2007 2:57:54 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: llevrok

I just sent the Kos article to mnfi.webmaster “at” iraq.centcom.mil with the following explanation. Ah, for the good old days (early 19th century)—an officer and gentleman like General Petraeus could have simply demanded satisfaction (pistols for two and breakfast for one) from Eli Pariser and this Kossack. Of course, scum like Pariser (”Eli Parasite” is his new name) wouldn’t dare face any gentleman with so much as Super Soakers or Nerf bats.

Come to think of it, the New York Times (which ran MoveOn’s defamatory ad) has pretty deep pockets as well...


I thought this should be brought to General Petraeus’ attention. The Daily Kos is operated under “editorial control” (i.e. the site’s owners can and do delete content and ban users for posting particularly egregious content) so Kos could probably be held accountable for it. I am not a lawyer and I cannot provide legal advice, but this looks like libel (written defamation).

MoveOn.org’s advertisement was meanwhile not only inexcusable but incompetent. The ad itself said openly that MoveOn did not even wait to hear what General Petraeus had to say before it accused him of lying. This, as well as plenty of other things I have researched, says plenty about that organization’s character and integrity.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/19/22357/9565


135 posted on 09/22/2007 2:59:27 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: llevrok

I can’t get past the “new voice of the mainstream Demcorats’ in the first line without laughing. Talk about an oxymoron (Empasis on moron):-)


136 posted on 09/22/2007 3:00:46 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: llevrok

Try again? ExpeRtiSe.


137 posted on 09/22/2007 3:07:08 PM PDT by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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To: 91B
I think it is infinitely more likely that he earned the BSM with V in a previous conflict as he was a division commander in Iraq and probably wasn’t as likely to be in position to show valor (commanders usually have a PSD to protect them). As I said, some of the guys I drill with were wondering about the CAB-I am unsure about the requirements under the regulation.

The "V" is really called the "combat distinguishing device," which indicates on certain awards that can be earned either during combat operations or non-combat activities, e.g., the Bronze Star, Commendation Medal or Achievement Medal, that is was related to combat operations. The award states specifically whether the combat distinguishing device can be worn or not. I suspect that Patraeus won his Bronze star with a "V" during the Gulf War. The Daily Kos doesn't know what it is talking about. They are trying to make Patraeus into Boorda who was wearing the "V" device improperly, i.e., it wasn't authorized.

138 posted on 09/22/2007 3:19:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
John Kerry's Purple Heart was boob bait for the Bubbas. If it had served no purpose to the left, no one would have ever even known Kerry had it.

John Kerry had three PHs, all of them questionable, especially the first one, and none requiring any hospitalization. By virtue of having three PHs, Kerry was able to curtail his one year tour in Vietnam to just 4 1/2 months in-country using an obscure rule.

Adm. William Schachte: 'No enemy fire' One of John Kerry's superior officers disputes the circumstances Kerry claims led to the awarding of his first Purple Heart

P.S. Kerry had a personalized MA license plate "PH3" on his car. He liked to advertise his "hero" status.

139 posted on 09/22/2007 3:30:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Wow, you have a lot of hatred towards a dead man. And the living too, apparently.


140 posted on 09/22/2007 3:33:13 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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