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Lawyer: Fake Bomb Charge an Overreaction
Peoplepc Online/Associated Press ^ | Sep[tember 22, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 09/22/2007 6:37:50 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

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To: r9etb
Worked for the paper” seems to be a better reason than “drawn to crisis” for the fact that she took that picture....

We might never know the truth.

201 posted on 09/22/2007 4:50:44 PM PDT by syriacus (The Democrats have all bases covered....but no one's pitching the ball.)
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To: syriacus
I guess she took this photograph of a fire at MIT

She seems to be drawn to "critical" situations.

What's that prove? She is/was on the staff of The Tech, and that location is a stone's throw from her dorm room.

202 posted on 09/22/2007 4:55:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: jwalsh07

yeah the putty was weird, i’ll give you that.

maybe she designed the shirt for a geeky club meeting at MIT and then decided to take some putty along with it to the airport thinking it would be an amusing afterthought. maybe she thought she was so obviously not a terrorist it would be amsuing. who knows

i do know that shooting her in the head for carrying some putty and lights in the shape of a star on her chest would have been the worst thing in the world for the police to have done.

this is a free country is it not? she was making no threat. unless this is some society where no one can wear anything slightly out of the ordinary in an airport without taking a bullet for it

would she have been shot for wearing that in a crowded restaurant? she was not even on a plane or boarding one


203 posted on 09/22/2007 4:57:11 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: Turret Gunner A20

She’s a moron, plain and simple.


204 posted on 09/22/2007 4:59:40 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: Maverick68
I am amazed by all the bomb experts on this thread.

It doesn't take a bomb expert. Just someone with enough common sense to know that a real suicide bomb would be concealed, not blatantly calling attention to itself with blinking lights.

205 posted on 09/22/2007 4:59:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Malsua
Let the terrorists learn a lesson: Better hide the circuitry under the garment, least you be suspect!
206 posted on 09/22/2007 5:00:02 PM PDT by GregoryFul (how'd that get there?)
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To: cynwoody
What's that prove?

Nothing.

207 posted on 09/22/2007 5:10:54 PM PDT by syriacus (The Democrats have all bases covered....but no one's pitching the ball.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
and no one even noticed her until she walked up to the information desk to ask when her boyfriend's flight was arriving.

That point merits consideration. The area where she was is crawling with cops. Yet the person who spotted her 'bomb' was Maria Moncayo, a clerk at the information desk, not a security officer. The police who then swarmed Star Simpson were on an adrenaline high based on a bogus report. I find it hard to believe that her 'bomb' was not observed and dismissed by at least one security person before she spoke with Ms. Moncayo.

208 posted on 09/22/2007 5:13:18 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: jim35

How do those sneakers decorated with blinking LEDs do at the airport these days?


209 posted on 09/22/2007 5:25:00 PM PDT by GregoryFul (how'd that get there?)
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To: RJL
I have no absolutely no experience in bomb building, but I'm very sure that I could easily build a timer/detonator device that looks virtually identical to Star's "art" and given access to some plastic explosives I could fashion that to look like the Play Dough (was that "art" too?) that she carried in her hand.

You certainly could, but it would be way overengineered for a suicide vest. You would need no electronics at all unless you are going for something more sophisticated, such as remote triggering or time delay or proximity detection (as in a mine).

On the other hand, an MIT level jihad vest would probably have a circuit board programmed to recognize the words "Allahu akbar!" shouted out by its wearer. That way it could be set off even if the wearer is reaching for the sky as police approach.

And as for the Play Doh, even if it were actually C4, it would be completely harmless the way Star was carrying it (you need a detonator inserted and wired up to get it to go).

210 posted on 09/22/2007 5:25:34 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: AndyJackson
Now if you are logically consistent you will advocate that anyone who has any of these should be shot first, and questioned later. Me, given the scarcity of bombs actually going off in our various facilities, I think we can afford the risk of stopping and investigating.

No one is advocating shooting first. The very first thing done was she was questioned. She then refused to answer questions and fled. Is that normal behavior for someone with "a radio, a camera, a personal computer, an ipod, a cell phone, a pacemaker, a pc battery life extender, a cellphone fast recharger ..., an electric razor, and those flashy wheeley running shoes"? Why didn't she explain that it was a piece of art and show what it did? Unless of course she was trying to cause a panic and got caught.

The trouble began when Ms. Simpson, wearing a lighted circuit board sewn to her black hooded sweatshirt, walked up to a customer service desk at Logan International Airport and asked about an arriving flight carrying a passenger she was to meet. A nine-volt battery was attached to the circuit board, and Ms. Simpson carried a wad of modeling clay in one hand.

The employee, fearing that the board was a bomb, “asked Ms. Simpson what was on her chest, and she didn’t answer,” Major Pare said. “Ms. Simpson then turned around and left the building.”


211 posted on 09/22/2007 5:35:47 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
The employee, fearing that the board was a bomb, “asked Ms. Simpson what was on her chest, and she didn’t answer,” Major Pare said. “Ms. Simpson then turned around and left the building.”

This sounds to me like hearsay. Can't this information clerk speak for herself? Does Maria Moncayo speak English as a first language? This smells to me like the typical cop CYA operation where "We made a mistake" is not in their lexicon.

Honestly ask yourself when was the last time you heard any government agency own up to a f up?

212 posted on 09/22/2007 5:58:59 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: AndyJackson

Just as people know since 9/11 that you can’t joke about bombs, common sense says you don’t carry something, particuarly on your chest, that resembles a bomb. Especially in a town that went through the comedy central promotion 8 months before.

Bottomline: you absolve her, I don’t. This incident happened the day after she had a practical reason to have that thing on. She woke up and decided to put it on again.


213 posted on 09/22/2007 6:29:29 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Democrat's Support Of The Military: "Invincible In Peace-Invisible In War")
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To: modest proposal
Nobody got shot. Nobody will be criminally prosecuted as a terrorist. Neither of which excuses the stupidity of the MIT gal.

In other words, the police did a good job of dealing with a potentially bad situation caused by a jackass.

And btw, the electronics was 7th grade stuff. Evidently, MIT ain't what it used to be.

214 posted on 09/22/2007 6:30:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CJ Wolf

My point exactly.


215 posted on 09/22/2007 6:32:03 PM PDT by 1L
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To: ninonitti
This sounds to me like hearsay.

A cop reproting the testimony of a witness to the press is not "hearsay" Perry Mason, it is a cop briefing the press.

216 posted on 09/22/2007 6:33:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: FreedomCalls
No one is advocating shooting first.

Here you are very very wrong and have simply failed to pay attention. A lot of my interlocutors have been calling for shooting first and asking questions later.

... She refused to answer questions and fled.

This is a distortion. She simply left, and did not go very far. The information booth attendant is not a security person, and has no authority to question or detain. Simpson was perfectly within her rights to turn around and leave when she was asked what was "on her chest," which might be interpreted to be a rude question. Here is what the article said further:

A Massachusetts Port Authority staffer manning an information booth in the terminal became suspicious when Simpson - wearing the device - approached to ask about an incoming flight, Pare said. Simpson then walked outside, and the staffer notified a nearby trooper...The trooper, joined by others with submachine guns, confronted her in front of the terminal...."She was immediately told to stop, to raise her hands and not to make any movement, so we could observe all her movements to see if she was trying to trip any type of device," Pare said. "Had she not followed the protocol, we might have used deadly force."

She did not flee. She cooperated apparently, and it turned out she did not have any device she could detonate.

217 posted on 09/22/2007 6:36:26 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: cynwoody
What's that prove?

Is everyone here a panic mechanic? The picture is not of a fire, but of a firetruck sitting outside of a building having responded to an alarm. I suppose we don't know that Simpson did not set off the alarm and then standby with her camera at the ready to photograph the ensuing panic.

However, conservatives are supposed to believe in objective and demonstrable fact. If we base all of our suspicions on things we don't know we will go downhill fast as a society.

218 posted on 09/22/2007 6:40:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: GregoryFul
Let the terrorists learn a lesson: Better hide the circuitry under the garment, least you be suspect!While I would really like to believe that this is sarcasm, given the abject stupidity of most posts on this thread, I have to point out that terrorists have demonstrated the world over that they learned this lesson back before Cassius and Brutus plotted the assassination of Caesar.
219 posted on 09/22/2007 6:43:21 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: GregoryFul
Oops, fixing the formatting:

Let the terrorists learn a lesson: Better hide the circuitry under the garment, least you be suspect!

While I believe that this is sarcasm, based on your subsequent posts, given the abject stupidity of most posts on this thread, I have to point out that terrorists have demonstrated the world over that they learned this lesson back before Cassius and Brutus plotted the assassination of Caesar.

I would add that my dog knows this lesson, lest anyone think we are giving away a vital national secret.

220 posted on 09/22/2007 6:48:11 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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