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To: humantech

Well, in what other areas do you approve of vigilante law? Does every citizen get to pick the area he or she thinks should be subject to their ideas of vigilante law?

The comparison to Middle Eastern honor killings is made because, even though the ME culture blames the promiscuous daughter, and American culture mostly blames the boy, both fathers or family members have a notion that they are restoring or protecting the family ‘honor’, or avenging some loss of honor.

I just can’t agree that a fifteen year-old girl has little responsibility for her decisions, especially since the boy was only seventeen and girls DO mature faster as teens. Looks like equal guilt to me.


203 posted on 09/22/2007 9:56:46 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
vigilante law?

BWAHHHHHAAAAA

Please. I didnt condone stringing this kid up.

I'm fairly certain you didnt really even read my post.
Police typically classify this type of incident as " mutual combat" where neither or both participants end up in trouble. The only problem the father has at this time is that the kid want 18 yet. I would assume if we saw pictures of the kid, we might think he was 18 though. The kid is old enough to play, he's old enough to pay. You are reaching quite a bit on the comparison to honor killing. It simply doesnt hold water.

My points had nothing to do about honor. It has to do with taking care of you children even if you have to suffer for it. That girl is the more likely to have issues arising from sexual relations. The boy is free to take off if she gets pregnant. Or an STD. Or boring to him. SHE has to live with that. This is nothing to do with " restoring honor " to a family. This is to do with seeing a bad situation and acting to stop it.

The dad is going to pay for this, one, and the domestic strife he will have in his home ( Daughters will be VERY vocal and angry that Dad "runined her life" ) will likely make the prospect of hanging out in jail for a few days kindve a nice change.
Also, I never once mentioned the girl had no responsibility in the situation.She absolutely does. Thats a whole different discussion, and as men and women are fundamentally different, it will need to be dealt with differently.
What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation?
Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.
209 posted on 09/22/2007 10:12:25 AM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Will88
vigilante law?

BWAHHHHHAAAAA

Please. I didnt condone stringing this kid up.

I'm fairly certain you didnt really even read my post.
Police typically classify this type of incident as " mutual combat" where neither or both participants end up in trouble. The only problem the father has at this time is that the kid want 18 yet. I would assume if we saw pictures of the kid, we might think he was 18 though. The kid is old enough to play, he's old enough to pay. You are reaching quite a bit on the comparison to honor killing. It simply doesnt hold water.

My points had nothing to do about honor. It has to do with taking care of you children even if you have to suffer for it. That girl is the more likely to have issues arising from sexual relations. The boy is free to take off if she gets pregnant. Or an STD. Or boring to him. SHE has to live with that. This is nothing to do with " restoring honor " to a family. This is to do with seeing a bad situation and acting to stop it.

The dad is going to pay for this, one, and the domestic strife he will have in his home ( Daughters will be VERY vocal and angry that Dad "runined her life" ) will likely make the prospect of hanging out in jail for a few days kindve a nice change.
Also, I never once mentioned the girl had no responsibility in the situation.She absolutely does. Thats a whole different discussion, and as men and women are fundamentally different, it will need to be dealt with differently.
What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation?
Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.
210 posted on 09/22/2007 10:12:33 AM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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