[humantech]

vigilante law?

BWAHHHHHAAAAA

Please. I didnt condone stringing this kid up.

I'm fairly certain you didnt really even read my post.
Police typically classify this type of incident as " mutual combat" where neither or both participants end up in trouble. The only problem the father has at this time is that the kid want 18 yet. I would assume if we saw pictures of the kid, we might think he was 18 though. The kid is old enough to play, he's old enough to pay. You are reaching quite a bit on the comparison to honor killing. It simply doesnt hold water.

My points had nothing to do about honor. It has to do with taking care of you children even if you have to suffer for it. That girl is the more likely to have issues arising from sexual relations. The boy is free to take off if she gets pregnant. Or an STD. Or boring to him. SHE has to live with that. This is nothing to do with " restoring honor " to a family. This is to do with seeing a bad situation and acting to stop it.

The dad is going to pay for this, one, and the domestic strife he will have in his home ( Daughters will be VERY vocal and angry that Dad "runined her life" ) will likely make the prospect of hanging out in jail for a few days kindve a nice change.
Also, I never once mentioned the girl had no responsibility in the situation.She absolutely does. Thats a whole different discussion, and as men and women are fundamentally different, it will need to be dealt with differently.
What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation?
Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.

[Will88]

“What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation?
Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.”

The parents should have dealt with their children based on whatever values they’ve tried to give their children. I would never try to have a seventeen year-old charged with statutory rape if I knew the sex had been consensual.

And, if the girl had been seventeen and the boy fifteen, how do you think it should have been handled? These things definitely do happen, and have for decades. I know of such cases.

[Will88]

“Also, I never once mentioned the girl had no responsibility in the situation.She absolutely does. Thats a whole different discussion, and as men and women are fundamentally different, it will need to be dealt with differently.”

Well, you need to work to have these differences reflected in the law. I don’t think they are in most cases, and reflecting such differences would probably be declared unconstitutional when it comes to consensual sex unless a pregnancy results.

[RochesterFan]

What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation? Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.

Very good question.

1. Sit down and get control of my anger. Actions while angry are typically imprudent. The father in the article is a case-in-point.
2. Talk things over with my wife before doing anything else. Experience has taught me that we make many fewer mistakes when we both agree on a course of action.
3. Sit down and have a long talk with my daughter. Point out the long term bad consequences to her of imprudent choices in this area. Point out that trust is initially given by a parent to a child, and when lost must be re-earned by a long-term consistent track record of behavior. I would then ground her for a pre-determined amount of time, limit the friends with whom she could associate to a pre-screened list with an option to add to it by discussion, and lock down the cell phone and computer. I would call the school weekly to check on her class-by-class attendance, and if there were unexplained discrepancies I would tighten the supervision, perhaps changing schools. Oh, and by the way, she would have to show long-term prudent behavior before ever getting a driving permit or going out with friends unaccompanied by an adult parent I knew and trusted. Note the theme: prudent behavior is the key to privileges. BTW - my parents did something like this to my brother when they caught him skipping school after the first warning.
4. And by the way, this boyfriend is history, as long as I am responsible for her support and behavior.

My son and daughter and their friends did not 'pair off' in high school. They tended to do things in big, mixed groups. They had a lot of fun without the dangers of falling prey to hormonal urges. Most did not date until well into college, and then tended to stick to larger mixed groups until marriage was in the picture.