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Immigrants’ Emergency Care Is Limited by U.S. Rule
NY Times ^ | September 22, 2007 | SARAH KERSHAW

Posted on 09/22/2007 12:04:38 AM PDT by neverdem

The federal government has told New York State health officials that chemotherapy, which had been covered for illegal immigrants under a government-financed program for emergency medical care, does not qualify for coverage. The decision sets the stage for a battle between the state and federal governments over how medical emergencies are defined.

The change comes amid a fierce national debate on providing medical care to immigrants, with New York State officials and critics saying this latest move is one more indication of the Bush administration’s efforts to exclude the uninsured from public health services.

State officials in New York and other states have found themselves caught in the middle. The New York dispute, focusing on illegal immigrants with cancer — a marginal group of unknown size among the more than 500,000 people living in New York illegally — has become a flash point for health officials and advocates for immigrants in recent weeks.

Under a limited provision of Medicaid, the national health program for the poor, the federal government permits emergency coverage for illegal immigrants and other noncitizens. But the Bush administration has been more closely scrutinizing and increasingly denying state claims for federal payment for some emergency services, Medicaid experts said.

Last month, federal officials, concluding an audit that began in 2004 and was not challenged by the state until now, told New York State that they would no longer provide matching funds for chemotherapy under the emergency program. Yesterday, state officials sent a letter to the federal Medicaid agency protesting the change, saying that doctors, not the federal government, should determine when chemotherapy is needed.

Federal health officials declined to discuss chemotherapy or the New York claims. But Dennis Smith, director of the Center for Medicaid and State Operations at the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; health; helathcare; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; medicaid; medicine
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To: DoughtyOne

Ummm...I am not sure where you are coming from. I have not said I disagree, nor do I disagree. You said “Medical Centers won’t be happy about this...”

Won’t be happy about what? That they won’t be required to provide care for illegal immigrants except in emergency situations? Perhaps I am misreading the article...


41 posted on 09/22/2007 2:15:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) provides for Emergency treatment for those who need it, something none of us (or at least I hope none of us) would consider denying to someone, the “Leave the accident victim at the side of the road” viewpoint.

However, if a person comes in with no insurance to a hospital, and wants a skin tumor removed, there is no federal requirement to do so.

If someone has no insurance, they can apply for medicaid if they are below a certain income, and if they are above a certain income, they can arrange a payment plan for services rendered.

Additionally, the hospital providing the care can draw from a fund of money provided by the federal government for the purpose of giving aid to uninsured patients, but there is no requirement that they attempt to draw on those funds. Each institution can simply refuse to participate.

But most institutions do, because invariably in the course of things, uninsured patients DO enter into the territory of non-emergent care, and most hospitals do wish to be able to draw on it.

That is not the issue at hand, though. The issue is the definition of non-emergent care as being emergent for the purposes of expanding the pool of eligible people, thus drawing us one step closer to socialized health care.


42 posted on 09/22/2007 2:46:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: neverdem

6.5 billion people on the planet.

Av. income is $10K around the world. So half of world pop. earns at the U.S. Federal poverty line, & qualifies for Federal aid of some sort...

CLOSE THE BORDERS, until these nations increase their OWN productivity — we can’t afford it.

We are only 300 million. We CAN’T AFFORD to SUPPORT six billion people


43 posted on 09/22/2007 3:44:38 PM PDT by 4Liberty (U.S. tax laws are enforced, Immigration laws aren’t = global tax)
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To: neverdem

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44 posted on 09/22/2007 6:23:42 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: rlmorel

Perhaps I misread the article myself. What I read seemed to indicate that the federal government wasn’t going to pay for services for illegal immigrants any longer. I didn’t see where it said hospitals wouldn’t have to provide service if they showed up at the E.R. That may seem like the same thing, but it’s not.


45 posted on 09/22/2007 11:08:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate it.


46 posted on 09/22/2007 11:10:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: VR-21

I thought we fought a revolution so we didn’t have to give our money to england. Now its looking like a deal, I’d gladly give King George 2% of my income annually.. if he makes it so I don’t get 50% of my income taken in wealth transfers and ‘entitlements’.

I’ll even look the other way as King George does what he’s gotta do to get rid of the ‘useless eaters’.


47 posted on 09/22/2007 11:15:22 PM PDT by ran20
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To: 4Liberty

Good post.. One thing occured to me reading it as well. If we are going to provide health care for hundreds of millions of third worlders, I sure as hell don’t want to be paying it in our system.

It probably costs 1/20th or less to give health care in most third world nations then in America. When we give medical care here, we have to also pay for monopolists like the ama, the health bureaucrats, insurance company profits, and lawyers like john edwards to be worth tens of millions.


48 posted on 09/22/2007 11:22:16 PM PDT by ran20
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To: ran20

The AMA is a legal cartel. Much of what physicians do can be done cheaply by by nurses, nurse practitioners. The AMA medical “cartel” controls (limits) supply, driving up prices. There is a whole history of protectionism behind the AMA, despite what they say about their organization.

Medical licensure restrictions (protections) are a hot topic among economists — they OPPOSE it, it’s bad for consumers. They want more competition in services, greater supply of different types of services from minor needs (done cheaply in a clinic at Walmart, for example) up to more serious health issues which truly require specialists with more advanced training.

Having AMA’s cartel is great for socialists like Hillary, who can point to the “shortage” and the “high prices, and then call for us to move AWAY from the actual solution - increased competition & a wider array of services & choices - and toward a top-down, anti-competitive, very costly monopoly system (read: government run).


49 posted on 09/23/2007 8:26:23 AM PDT by 4Liberty (U.S. tax laws are enforced, Immigration laws aren’t = global tax)
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To: DoughtyOne

No problem...I just got the impression you thought I disagreed with your opinion, and I absolutely don’t...we are on the same page.


50 posted on 09/24/2007 7:37:21 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I will say one thing though. If the federal government is going to continue to force hospitals to provide care to anyone who shows up at the door, it's not right to then deny payment for that care.

Not all care, just emergency care. The question is whether chemotherapy is considered emergency care or not. If the Federal government says it is not, and the state says yes it is, then it has to be resolved. The Federal government will not provide matching Medicaid funds. If NY State feels so strongly about it, let their taxpayers pay for the entire treatment, not just half. Problem solved.

51 posted on 09/24/2007 7:45:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rlmorel

That’s great. I’m glad.


52 posted on 09/24/2007 9:08:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: kabar

I agree. Thank you.


53 posted on 09/24/2007 9:10:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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