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Rather's Lawyer: 'Nobody's Proved the Documents Were Forgeries'
lgf ^ | Sep 20, 2007 | lgf

Posted on 09/20/2007 8:17:56 AM PDT by george76

It’s absolutely amazing, but Dan Rather and his lawyers are actually planning to argue in their lawsuit against CBS that the phony memos are genuine.

I’m going to say this again just to go on the record: the CBS “Killian” memos are frauds. It has been proven beyond all doubt. It is simply impossible that these documents were created on any machine available in the 1970s.

And for Dan Rather to continue insisting they are genuine shows either:

1) a disconnection from reality that borders on the psychotic, or

2) a blatant liar willing to go down in flames rather than admit the truth.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bedwetter; cbs; danrather; dbm; howtostealanelection; kenneth; lyingliar; msm; rather; ratherbiased; rathergate; scumbag; zogbyism
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To: george76

LOL. That is like saying nobody has proved that the Earth is not flat.


41 posted on 09/20/2007 8:41:28 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: Alouette; RebelTex; BIGLOOK; girlangler

Would You Like to Select the "Professional Forgery" Template or the "Half-a-Retard Forgery" Template?

Man, Windows really has come a long way since its first introduction in 1970.


42 posted on 09/20/2007 8:41:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
'Nobody's Proved the Documents Were Forgeries'

Sure, someone just sent a PC with Microsoft Word back into time so the document could be printed. I don't understand why anyone would think that document wasn't authentic.

43 posted on 09/20/2007 8:41:49 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: george76

I think Dan is finally showing some intelligence (possibly for the first time ever). He puts CBS in the position of proving the documents are fake (doable, but oh so embarrassing to CBS and positive for Bush) or quietly settling out of court.


44 posted on 09/20/2007 8:42:16 AM PDT by 3Lean
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To: george76
Point of clarification: nobody has proved the documents exist. All ever seen were multi-generational copies of something which strongly resembles something whipped up with MS Word.

If the originals could be acquired, much doubt of authenticity would be removed with just a close look: if impact-printed, then maybe authentic; if toner or inkjet printed, absolutely forgeries (and lousy ones at that). ...funny, so easy to check, so hard to find the originals...

At some point the docs were faxed; no critic or independent observer has seen what went into the fax machine. G'head, Dan: show us.

45 posted on 09/20/2007 8:42:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: george76
ROFLOL!!!

LOL!

LOL!

Dan.... stop it! You're killin' me!

LOLOLOLOLOL!

What a maroon...

46 posted on 09/20/2007 8:42:39 AM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
It's not just the fonts (as if that weren't enough), but the memos were done in a format (headings, signature block alignment) that the USAF (and, therefore the ANG) didn't adopt until the early 1990's.

Who ever forged these documents was adept and creating USAF correspondence, but didn't know that the style change.

47 posted on 09/20/2007 8:42:45 AM PDT by TankerKC (32570 21R)
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To: TLI

Now that I re-read my post I can see it is much more accurate than anything Gunga-Dan has reported.


48 posted on 09/20/2007 8:44:33 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: anoldafvet; ASOC; Chgogal

Forgeries ?

They are fake.


49 posted on 09/20/2007 8:44:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

No, expensive typesetting equipment could do proportional spacing and superscripts, but not psuedo-kerning. Also the font “Times New Roman” was never lisenced for such equipment.

By coincidence, the memos exhibit a type font, superscripting and psuedo-kerning identical to the default settings of Word 2003! What are the chances?

Buckhead’s instant observation was proportional spacing, which anyone who’s used Courier or Courier New is familar with. (Courier typeface does not use proportional spacing, makes it look like it’s written on a typewritter.)

Like I said, if that crazy bastard, Burket had bothered to find a vintage typewritter, Kerry might be president and Katy Couric would still be on the Today! show.


50 posted on 09/20/2007 8:44:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
...if that crazy bastard, Burket had bothered to find a vintage typewritter, Kerry might be president ...

Heck, he didn't even have to find a vintage typewriter ... all he had to do was "ctl-a" (select all) and set font to Courier.

51 posted on 09/20/2007 8:48:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IrishCatholic; Howlin; Jim Robinson
de nada ... the amazing part is that if you’ve ever participated or even lurked on a FR "live thread" you know how the comments come in real-time, synced with the broadcast. You get a very good sense of the eclectic group of experts that’s participating at any one time. Keep that in mind as you browse Howlin’s historic thread. It is the best example I’ve EVER seen for the power of the New Media. Epic. Amazing. Incontrovertible.
52 posted on 09/20/2007 8:51:08 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: JerseyDvl
What a journalistic standard Dan has set....
“We can say anything we want and it is up to you top prove us wrong”

He's simply applying the Lyndon Johnson axiom, "Make the bastard deny it."

53 posted on 09/20/2007 8:51:29 AM PDT by reformed_democrat ("... it's a dishonor to leave your allies." President Traian Basescu, Romania)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; Nomorjer Kinov; Buckhead
Buckhead’s instant observation was proportional spacing, which anyone who’s used Courier or Courier New is familar with.

47 posted on 09/08/2004 10:59:43 PM CDT by Buckhead

54 posted on 09/20/2007 8:52:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom DeLay 8/30/07))
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To: DuncanWaring

If he’da used a typewritter, one cycle through the fax machine would have been sufficient and completely bullet proof against foresnic investigation. Using a computer and inkjet was pure carelessness.


55 posted on 09/20/2007 8:57:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: TankerKC

Thank you, Tanker, for your role in the “blog shot heard round the world” You were Lexington to Buckhead’s Concord. Your “WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN” real-time comment was the spark that lit the fuse. Knowing how that thread played out made it all the more incredible. Way to Go, FRiend!!!


56 posted on 09/20/2007 8:59:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: george76

The Colonel in question was not a good typist. His secretary made numerous comments to that bit of information. And yet this man who was not a good typist did something that a very good typist could rarely do: he produced three memos without a single typographical error.


57 posted on 09/20/2007 9:02:13 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: george76

Rather refused to acknowledge on the air that there was any doubt cast onto the documents. He and he alone presented them as “genuine” to the American voting public.


58 posted on 09/20/2007 9:02:27 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
I remember some leftie finding out there was some high-tech typesetting equipment available at the time.

I remember that story. There were typewriter models that use those 'balls' for typing could be interchanged to give different font sizes and the line feed reverse by a fraction of a line in order to produce superscript. So you would ahve to change type-balls as you are typing, but it could be done in theory. But who in their right minds would go through such a hassle? And I don't think the author in question had access to such high end typing equipment.

59 posted on 09/20/2007 9:02:46 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: bfree

He’ll have to produce a typed and handsigned letter for anything to be authenticated.

His photocopy/fax of a photocopied signature grafted to an MS-Word document does not constitute “proof” of anything excepted a coordinated conspiracy to lie to the voting public during a tight election race.


60 posted on 09/20/2007 9:04:04 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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