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UK Ping list - if you would like on or off, freepmail me.

1 posted on 09/15/2007 2:40:41 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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2 posted on 09/15/2007 2:41:27 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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Great picture (but missing northern Ireland).

If the parents killed Madeleine, why wouldn't they kill her siblings?

Suspect that they were stupid to go off to have tapas without getting a babysitter, but that they didn't murder their own child.

3 posted on 09/15/2007 2:43:34 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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I was under the assumption that the dna taken from the body fluids found in the trunk of the car would divulge proof that the child was deceased when placed in the car.


4 posted on 09/15/2007 2:46:03 PM PDT by yorkie
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“Find the body and prove we killed her.”

Or to put it another way:

"We have disposed of the corpse so well that you will not find it."
8 posted on 09/15/2007 2:48:18 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To me, this is one of the scenarios that makes the most sense to me. I don’t think the parents killed the child on purpose - it seems logical to me that she might have accidentally died from an overdose of drugs given to her to make her sleep while they went off and had dinner. Because they are doctors, they realized that an autopsy would show this to be the cause of death & they decided to hide the body and report that she was “missing”. If friends helped them, then that would explain why the girl’s body wasn’t found during a search after the police were called.

That makes sense to me, because the parents obviously weren’t candidates for “Parents of the Year” by leaving 3 very young children alone while they went out to dinner with friends. It makes more sense than any other explanation does.


13 posted on 09/15/2007 2:50:45 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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What a crock. The corrupt Portugese police using rumor and innuendo to deflect their own imcompetence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=461111&in_page_id=1770

The detective leading the hunt for Madeleine McCann has sensationally been charged over his conduct in another missing child case.

Goncalo Amaral, head of the regional Judicial Police, is one of five officers accused over the beating-up of a suspect during questioning.


24 posted on 09/15/2007 3:04:18 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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I don’t believe anything the police say in this case. They assume so much with questionable proof...
They don’t seem to consider that this child very well could have been snatched as part of a child dirty deeds ring..
Can we say Aruba? Smacks of the same degree of bungling.


29 posted on 09/15/2007 3:20:41 PM PDT by celtic gal
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The truth will come out....it always does.......whoever helped them will talk...or one of them will crack....


33 posted on 09/15/2007 3:27:26 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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I'm having trouble believing this because... Seriously now, how many regular people could find someone to help them get rid of a body? Particularly the body of a child? And on a moment's notice to boot?

Sure, there are people who could find someone, no doubt about it. But I look at those two and... It's just very hard to believe.

34 posted on 09/15/2007 3:27:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Couple of questions.

When was the last time that someone besides the parents saw the little girl (time lapse between her being seen in public and the time the parents claim she disappeared)?

Any speculation on what the sedative might have been (if at all)? Are we talking high power stuff that might have left a paper trail in procurement? Or over the counter stuff? I don’t know about the UK but in Portugal I think there is pretty good access to strong meds over the counter. If they obtained drugs through their medical practice wouldn’t there be some record of that in the UK?

37 posted on 09/15/2007 3:29:11 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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I just don’t know what to think about all this. I do know that leaving the children alone is unforgivable.


40 posted on 09/15/2007 3:33:25 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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It sounds like they were involved in transporting and hiding her body after she went missing. Even though THAT in itself might be provable by the evidence the Portuguese police do have, as this article clearly states, that does not prove murder. (Is there a law against transporting a missing dead child??)

Adding the circumstantial stuff to this forensic evidence, though, it seems the McCanns left a crying, upset 4-year-old girl alone previous nights for their dining pleasure. When the neighbor complained, that might have given them reason to inject or dose the little girl with MORE sleep-inducing meds to give them more peace from the pesky little one who threatened to ruin their tapas and wine. I guess the dose was just right for the twin babies. But they may have overdosed the older girl and she died accidentally.

What kind of “friends” are those who help you move the body??

Anyway, it might not have gone down that way, but if it did, I do hate that these smug murderers know that they have forever gotten away with this. What a reason to die. Not an illness or an accident, but “Mummy and Daddy need their happy hour.” Sheesh.


48 posted on 09/15/2007 3:48:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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There are just too many unanswered questions in the reporting of this sad story. For example, when was the last time the child was seen by anyone else besides the parents? How do we know that the child was safe and asleep in the room when the parents went to dinner? If the police emphasis is on sleeping pills as the cause of the child’s death, why the focus on blood and blood dna in the hotel room? If the little girl’s body was concealed, where was it concealed? After all, that is a resort and lots of people go just about everywhere all the time! If others helped to conceal the body, why would they have done so? Who would want to step out of ‘ordinary life’ to get involved in that kind of crime? If the body was moved to a secondary location, how was that done unobserved? Surely, the parents were under close watch throughout. No? Why not? If the car rented by the parents showed the girl’s dna in the trunk (boot), how long had it been there? If the parents rented that car 25 days after the girl’s disappearance, where was that car for the 24 days prior to the parents’ rental? And who were the renters of it? Wouldn’t responsible reporting have answered those questions by now?


50 posted on 09/15/2007 3:49:50 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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2 MDs would be smart enough not to leave DNA evidence in a car trunk...I’m guessing the DNA traces were from a childs toy.


52 posted on 09/15/2007 3:54:13 PM PDT by Bobalu (I guess I done see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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Here is another thought. Maybe she didn’t die right away. Maybe she was non-responsive (brain dead) but still alive. The parents freaked and may still have had hopes she might recover. Maybe they used the abduction story because they still hoped she could recover. Then maybe wherever she was kept she died 25 days later and the car was hired to discard her body.


55 posted on 09/15/2007 4:08:09 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Sounds like another Natalee Holloway that disappeared from Aruba.


60 posted on 09/15/2007 4:34:03 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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The case against the McCanns detailed in a dossier now before Judge Pedro Miguel dos Anjos Frias appears to rest mainly on potentially damaging forensic test results. These are said to include Madeleine’s DNA in traces of bodily fluid, as well as a mass of hair, discovered in the McCanns’ hire car which was rented 25 days after she vanished.

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OH MY GOD!!! Is this true???

Wow. I had really felt sorry for this couple and even thought the Portugese police were just going the typical route of blaming the parents, but this seems damning!


82 posted on 09/15/2007 6:23:56 PM PDT by Southerngl
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One thing about a an accidental drug over dose: I heard a doctor say it would take 30 times the sleep dose to kill the child. Hard to believe a couple of MD’s would over do it.


84 posted on 09/15/2007 6:25:32 PM PDT by TalBlack
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The admission comes only two days after the McCanns went on the offensive after being named official suspects, issuing a challenge to detectives: “Find the body and prove we killed her.”

As others have said this is very very strange. If the parents actually said this word-for-word that is shilling to me. If they also as others have said left young children alone at home while they went out that is also a very telling bit of information.

97 posted on 09/15/2007 6:52:33 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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Remember Elizabeth Smart? The police blamed her father until she was found.

These folks have had reporters from around the world 24/7. Where could they go without all the reporters?


111 posted on 09/15/2007 7:36:32 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Thoughts, feelings, and emotions are NOT facts!)
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