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Hobbton High School Lifts Flag Ban
Stop The ACLU ^ | 12 Sep 07 | Jay777

Posted on 09/12/2007 5:38:08 PM PDT by Jay777

Thanks to pressure from the right and left...the nonsense ends!

SAMPSON COUNTY, N.C – A North Carolina High School that came under national attention over their rule that prohibited students from wearing items with the American flag, or any flag from other countries, has lifted the ban.

Superintendent Dr. L. Stewart Hobbs, Jr said they have lifted the ban on flags and “from this point on, all dress code changes will be made at the school board level.”

But before I finish eating my hat...I get this mixed bag email.

I just received a return call from Dr. Hobbs, the Superintendent of Schools. He told me this :

Last year, the school system had a problem with the Mexican flag protests, and with gang members using that to hide gang symbols. As a result, one principal banned all flags.

He has today, when he became aware of the problem, he lifted the flag ban. That decision will no longer be made at the individual school level.

He has also had a phone call already today from the ACLU !!!! Telling him that if he makes a decison to allow only the US flag, THEY WILL SUE. Didn't take long, huh ?


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aclu; dresscodes; gangs; oldglory; publikskoolz; schoolboard; sixthanniversary; tshirt

1 posted on 09/12/2007 5:38:10 PM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777

Something just struck me - how did the ACLU decide on its name? They are such an UNAMERICAN organization, you would think that they would have called themselves the UACLU!


2 posted on 09/12/2007 6:36:20 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: srmorton

The ACLU is trailer park trash in business suits. They get much of what they want by just being the ACLU and threatening to sue. Tell them to send their lawyers on. F*** them.


3 posted on 09/12/2007 6:57:21 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: srmorton
Something just struck me - how did the ACLU decide on its name? They are such an UNAMERICAN organization, you would think that they would have called themselves the UACLU!

These are a few of the past and present prominent officials and leaders of the American Civil Liberties Union.

1. Roger Baldwin, founder and guiding light of the ACLU for over 30 years, is now a member of the National Committee of the ACLU. Mr Roger Baldwin has a record of over 100 communist-front affiliations and citations (documented in detail, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD May 26, 1952). In an article written for Soviet Russia Today (September 1934), Roger Baldwin said: "When the power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatsoever." "The class struggle is the central conflict of the world, all others are coincidental."

Entry of Roger Baldwin in the Harvard reunion book on the occasion of the 30th anniversary reunion of his class of 1905 (1935), "I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produced the wealth: communism is the goal."

2. Dr. Harry Ward, first chairman of the ACLU. Dr. Harry Ward has a record of over 200 Communist front affiliations and citations listed by the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities (HCUA). Dr. Harry Ward was chairman of one of the largest Communist fronts to flourish in this country, "The American League for Peace and Democracy," which was placed on the Attorney General of the United States list of subversive organizations on June 1, 1948. Dr. Ward is the author of "Soviet Democracy" and "Soviet Spirit," two pro-Communist books which clearly show Dr. Ward's love for the Soviet system of government. The California Senate Fact Finding Committee on Un-American Activities, in their 1948 report, page 246, said: "The Communist affiliation of Dr. Harry F. Ward is indicative of the Communist sympaties of the members and sponsors of the "Friends of the Soviet Union."

3. Abraham L. Wirin, chief counsel for the Southern California Chapter of the ACLU, sometimes referred to as "Mr. ACLU."

In 1934 A. L. Wirin formed a law partnership with Leo Gllagher and Grover Johnson (reference: Daily Peoples World, Mar. 5, 1934, official publication of the Communist Party on the west coast). Mr Leo Gallagher ran for State office on the Communist Party ticket in 1936 and Grover Johnson, when asked by a governmental investigating agency if he had ever been a member of the Communist Party, refused to answer the question on the grounds that he might incriminate himself.

In 1954, A. L. Wirin was a candidate for the executive board of National Lawyers Guild (reference: Los Angeles Daily Journal, Jan 13, 1954). The National Lawyers Guild has been cited as a Communist Front organization by the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) September 21, 1950. (Four years before, Mr. Wirin was a candidate for the executive board.)

4. Dr. Albert Eason Monroe, executive director of the Southern California Chapter of the ACLU:

In 1952, Dr. Albert Eason Monroe, U.S. Navy serial No. 316900, was discharged from the U.S. Naval Reserve under conditions other than honorable.

In 1950, Dr. Monroe was fired from his position as head of the English department of San Francisco college for refusing to sign a loyalty oath. (The purpose of loyalty oaths is to protect the unsuspecting individual from lending his name to a Communist cause and from becoming a Communist dupe. The requirements of loyalty oaths have multiplied the obstacles to the Communists in recruiting memberships for their front organizations and maintaining discipline over fellow travelers in Government service. Few people will swear to an oath knowing it to be false and knowing that they might be liable to indictment and imprisonment for perjury. This requirement places a most difficult hurdle in front of the Communists attempting to ensnare an unsuspecting recruit into their conspiracy.)

In 1953, Dr. Albert Eason Monroe was listed as being chairman of the Federation for Repeal of the Levering Act (ie., loyalty oaths), which was cited as being a Communist front organization by the California State Senate Committee on Education in its 1952 report to the State legislature.

5. Rev. A. A. Heist, executive director of the Southern California Chapter of the ACLU in 1952, and Dr. Monroe's predecessor. Rev. A. A. Heist was a signer of the statement to the President of the United States, defending the Communist Party (reference: Daily Worker Mar 5, 1941). In 1952, the Reverend Heist resigned his position in the ACLU to become director of a new organization which he founded, called the Citizens' Committee to Preserve American Freedoms (CCPAF). This organization is run by its executive secretary, Mr. Frank Wilkinson, an identified Communist. At a meeting of the district council of the southern California district of the Communist Party, United States of America, Dorothy Healy, well-known Communist and chairman of the district council, said, "The party preferred public protest meetings against the HCUA to be held by the Citizens Committee To Preserve American Freedoms rather than under party auspices because Communists could attend without danger of being exposed as party members." (Reference HCUA, H. Rept. 259, Apr 3, 1950, "Report on the Southern California District of the Communist Party". The Citizens Committee To Preserve American Freedoms was cited as being a Communist front organization by the HCUA on April 3, 1959.

The Reverend Heist stated in a speech to an audience of high school and junior college students in Pasadena that "the Constitution of the United States is outmoded, outdated, and impotent." (One of the stated goals of the ACLU is to preserve the Constitution.)

In 1948, the Reverend Heist protested the withdrawal of the use of their hall by Occidental College to an identified Communist poet, Langston Hughes, who was to speak on a poem of his entitled, "Goodbye, Christ," which called for "Christ, Jesus, Lord God Jehovah" to "beat it" and "make way for a new guy named Marx, Communist Lenin, Peasant Stalin, and worker me." (Reference: Hollywood Citizen News, February 26, 1948.) This would not be a strange protest from an atheistic Communist, but when it comes from a Methodist minister?

6. Carey McWilliams, a member of the national committee of the ACLU in 1948, who now figures prominently in the affairs of the ACLU, has been identified in sworn testimony, according to Government documents, as a member of the Communist Party. Carey McWilliams has a record of over 50 Communist-front affiliations and citations. He is the editor of "Rights," the official publication of the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee which has been cited as a Communist front by the HCUA (November 8, 1957).

7. Prof. William A. Kilpatrick, prominent member of the ACLU on the east coast, was for many years head of Teacherc College, Columbia University. In his book, "The Teacher and Society," published in 1939, Professor Kilpatrick said that "the revolution by force and violence was probably necessary in Russia, but it would not be necessary in America. Here, the same goals could be acheived by effectuating change within the framework of the Constitution."

8. William Z. Foster, former head of the Communist Party, United States of America, was a former member of the National Committee of the ACLU. 9. Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, former member of the National Committee of the ACLU until 1940, is a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, United States of America. In the report on "Communist Propaganda in America" (published 1935, A.F.L.) as submitted to the State Department, by William Green, the late president of the American Federation of Labor, Mr. Green states that: "During all the years since the establishment of the Soviet regime in Russia, propaganda in the United States has been conducted, not only through agencies directly set up by the Communist high command, but through agencies and organizations in which non-Communists of good standing and repute have been induced to participate. A careful studyof these organizations shows that they are so related through interlocking directorates that apparently some hundreds of organizations are dominated by an interlocking group of directors numbering not more than 60. Their tactics may perhaps be called the tactics of irritation, since their purpose is to create dissatisfaction as widely as possible and to bring into disrepute the authorities, and the established institutions of the country. As an example, the American Civil Liberties Union may be cited."

To support Mr. Green's statement of "the interlocking directorates," we discovered that when we looked at the record of the top 15 past and current leaders of the ACLU, we found that they had a combined record of over 1000 Communist front affiliations and citations.

Need more?

4 posted on 09/12/2007 7:21:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961
I was actually just trying to be funny with my previous post. I know how leftist and socialist the ACLU is. It just hit me that they are such haters of America that it must upset some of them to have the word American in their name.

I know that a lot of the Freepers think Pat Robertson is a flake, but he actually has a very good law school at Regent University in Virginia. He established The American Center of Law and Justice for the express purpose of countering the ACLU and for giving Christians a group of competent lawyers to back them up if they choose to try to fight some ridiculous demand made by the ACLU.
5 posted on 09/12/2007 7:44:49 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: Jay777

I must admit that this headline gave me pause. For half a second I read the school’s name as “Hobbiton High School” and briefly wondered what sort of flag hobbits have.


6 posted on 09/12/2007 7:50:52 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: srmorton

Anti-Christian Litigants’ Union


7 posted on 09/12/2007 10:46:12 PM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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To: Fairview

“I must admit that this headline gave me pause. For half a second I read the school’s name as “Hobbiton High School” and briefly wondered what sort of flag hobbits have.”

Whew..I thought I was the ONLY one!


8 posted on 09/12/2007 10:54:15 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: srmorton
I was actually just trying to be funny with my previous post. I know how leftist and socialist the ACLU is.

I suspected that, but you would be amazed how many Americans are totally clueless at the genesis of the ACLU...

9 posted on 09/13/2007 10:26:44 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: srmorton

ACLU originally stood for American Communist Lawyers Union. When Americans stood up against Communism they changed the name to American Civil Liberties Union. However, their agenda did not change.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 12:11:41 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Bringing suits is how the ACLU stays in business. The receive taxpayer money everytime they file a suit.
11 posted on 09/13/2007 12:14:40 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Jay777
We need to encourage the Superintendant to stand up to the ACLU. We'll take up a collection if they sue, but we won't give up our flags! And just because we allow our flag, DOES NOT MEAN that all flags are allowed!
12 posted on 09/13/2007 12:17:13 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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