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Pope blasts Europeans for not having enough children
AFP ^ | 09-08-2007

Posted on 09/08/2007 7:00:51 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo

MARIAZELL, Austria (AFP) — Pope Benedict XVI blasted Europeans for being selfish and not having enough children, in a sermon on Saturday at the 850-year-old pilgrimage site of Mariazell in Austria.

"Europe has become child-poor. We want everything for ourselves and place little trust in the future," the pope told a crowd of faithful from his canopied area at an open-air mass that took place under heavy rain.

But Benedict held out hope, saying: "The earth will be deprived of a future only when the forces of the human heart and of reason illuminated by the heart are extinguished . . . Where God is, there is the future."

The pontiff had slammed abortion upon arriving in Austria Friday as the "very opposite" of human rights.

"The fundamental human right, the presupposition of every other right, is the right to life itself," he told members of the government and the diplomatic corps at the Hofburg, the seat of the Austrian presidency in Vienna.

The pope also warned at the mass Saturday that science must be used for good if man is not to be threatened with destruction.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birthrate; children; cultureofdeath; demographics; eurabia; europeans; pope; populationcontrol; vatican
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I hadn’t noticed that before, I love it.


41 posted on 09/08/2007 8:46:51 AM PDT by tiki
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To: taxed2death
Um, if you're talking about the fabled Vatican riches...

I once researched and posted on FreeRepublic (though I can't find it now: help, anybody?) some relevant statistics on that score. The Vatican's annual budget comes to about the same amount, IIRC, as the annual budget for the Oakland, CA Transit System(?) Their accumulated wealth is mainly in the form of properties which are held in trust for members of the Church, the general public, or future generations (e.g. art works) which can not readily, or ethically, be converted into cash.

The idea that the Vatican could pay for food, housing, and educational costs for the future children of Europe is a real eye-roller.

Many European couples could fund a couple of kids on the money they spend annually on liquor, fashions, and cosmetics, or the amount they spread around as "holidaymakers" in Thailand, Nice, Languedoc, Aruba, Jamaica, Kerala, and Fiji.

42 posted on 09/08/2007 9:21:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom...though it cost all you have, get understanding" - Prov. 4)
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To: jas3

Are you saying that unmarried men should father children?


43 posted on 09/08/2007 9:47:50 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: steadfastconservative
Are you saying that unmarried men should father children?

Don't bother to ask them to justify their statements. When someone is as reflexively anti-Catholic as these people seem to be, they don't think about their bigotry, they just vomit whatever is in their minds.

44 posted on 09/08/2007 9:54:41 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: taxed2death

I doubt it. The reason that so many European couples (and many American ones as well) have so few children is not that they can’t afford them but that they would rather have luxuries and an affluent standard of living. This is precisely the kind of selfishness that the pope is condemning. If it were genuinely too expensive to have more than one or two children, then all of us who have large families would be living in poverty. But that is not the case. Most married couples who have larger families, and who usually live on one income, are in the middle class.


46 posted on 09/08/2007 9:59:33 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

ever read St. Paul?


47 posted on 09/08/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Wurlitzer
While I enjoy the joke, It's desperately important to point out that fornication is illicit sexual intercourse. If a married couple get it on, that's not fornication.
48 posted on 09/08/2007 10:24:08 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Shots

The pope is celibate. What’s your excuse?


49 posted on 09/08/2007 10:26:59 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation
I won't try to improve on each of your efforts here. Probably would be a futile exercise anyway. Let me just thank both of you for being who you are and for doing what you do here.

Mrs. D: you ought to keep the tagline: He's XVI... Made my day!

50 posted on 09/08/2007 10:29:21 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Sacajaweau

I guess you had to sell yout house and cars so your kids could go to college. Well, it IS getting that bad, but blame that on the college administrators for jacking up rates.


51 posted on 09/08/2007 10:29:46 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

What’s the matter? You sound like Jay Leno, who only multiples cars.


52 posted on 09/08/2007 10:31:35 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: steadfastconservative

Go easy. The pope hit them in their conscience. That hurts.


53 posted on 09/08/2007 10:34:24 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: BlackElk
The Pope's Homily for today, September 8, 2007, from Vultus Christi

God Shows Us His Face and Opens to Us His Heart

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Homily of His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI

Basilica of Mariazell
Saturday, 8 September 2007

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Show Us Jesus

With our great pilgrimage to Mariazell, we are celebrating the patronal feast of this Shrine, the feast of Our Lady’s Birthday. For 850 years pilgrims have been travelling here from different peoples and nations; they come to pray for the intentions of their hearts and their homelands, bringing their deepest hopes and concerns. In this way Mariazell has become a place of peace and reconciled unity, not only for Austria, but far beyond her borders. Here we experience the consoling kindness of the Madonna. Here we meet Jesus Christ, in whom God is with us, as today’s Gospel reminds us – Jesus, of whom we have just heard in the reading from the prophet Micah: “He himself will be peace” (5:4). Today we join in the great centuries-old pilgrimage. We rest awhile with the Mother of the Lord, and we pray to her: Show us Jesus. Show to us pilgrims the one who is both the way and the destination: the truth and the life.

God Writes Straight on the Crooked Lines of History

The Gospel passage we have just heard broadens our view. It presents the history of Israel from Abraham onwards as a pilgrimage, which, with its ups and downs, its paths and detours, leads us finally to Christ. The genealogy with its light and dark figures, its successes and failures, shows us that God can write straight even on the crooked lines of our history. God allows us our freedom, and yet in our failures he can always find new paths for his love. God does not fail. Hence this genealogy is a guarantee of God’s faithfulness; a guarantee that God does not allow us to fall, and an invitation to direct our lives ever anew towards him, to walk ever anew towards Jesus Christ.

Seekers of the Star

Making a pilgrimage means setting out in a particular direction, travelling towards a destination. This gives a beauty of its own even to the journey and to the effort involved. Among the pilgrims of Jesus’s genealogy there were many who forgot the goal and wanted to make themselves the goal. Again and again, though, the Lord called forth people whose longing for the goal drove them forward, people who directed their whole lives towards it. The awakening of the Christian faith, the dawning of the Church of Jesus Christ was made possible, because there were people in Israel whose hearts were searching – people who did not rest content with custom, but who looked further ahead, in search of something greater: Zechariah, Elizabeth, Simeon, Anna, Mary and Joseph, the Twelve and many others. Because their hearts were expectant, they were able to recognize in Jesus the one whom God had sent, and thus they could become the beginning of his worldwide family. The Church of the Gentiles was made possible, because both in the Mediterranean area and in those parts of Asia to which the messengers of Jesus travelled, there were expectant people who were not satisfied by what everyone around them was doing and thinking, but who were seeking the star which could show them the way towards Truth itself, towards the living God.

The Face and the Heart of God

We too need an open and restless heart like theirs. This is what pilgrimage is all about. Today as in the past, it is not enough to be more or less like everyone else and to think like everyone else. Our lives have a deeper purpose. We need God, the God who has shown us his face and opened his heart to us: Jesus Christ. Saint John rightly says of him that only he is God and rests close to the Father’s heart (cf. Jn 1:18); thus only he, from deep within God himself, could reveal God to us – reveal to us who we are, from where we come and where we are going. Certainly, there are many great figures in history who have had beautiful and moving experiences of God. Yet these are still human experiences, and therefore finite. Only HE is God and therefore only HE is the bridge that truly brings God and man together. So if we Christians call him the one universal Mediator of salvation, valid for everyone and, ultimately, needed by everyone, this does not mean that we despise other religions, nor are we arrogantly absolutizing our own ideas; on the contrary, it means that we are gripped by him who has touched our hearts and lavished gifts upon us, so that we, in turn, can offer gifts to others. In fact, our faith is decisively opposed to the attitude of resignation that considers man incapable of truth – as if this were more than he could cope with. This attitude of resignation with regard to truth, I am convinced, lies at the heart of the crisis of the West, the crisis of Europe. If truth does not exist for man, then neither can he ultimately distinguish between good and evil. And then the great and wonderful discoveries of science become double-edged: they can open up significant possibilities for good, for the benefit of mankind, but also, as we see only too clearly, they can pose a terrible threat, involving the destruction of man and the world.

The Child in His Mother's Arms, The Crucified

We need truth. Yet admittedly, in the light of our history we are fearful that faith in the truth might entail intolerance. If we are gripped by this fear, which is historically well grounded, then it is time to look towards Jesus as we see him in the shrine at Mariazell. We see him here in two images: as the child in his Mother’s arms, and above the high altar of the Basilica as the Crucified. These two images in the Basilica tell us this: truth prevails not through external force, but it is humble and it yields itself to man only via the inner force of its veracity. Truth proves itself in love. It is never our property, never our product, just as love can never be produced, but only received and handed on as a gift. We need this inner force of truth. As Christians we trust this force of truth. We are its witnesses. We must hand it on as a gift in the same way as we have received it, as it has given itself to us.

To Gaze Upon Christ

“To gaze upon Christ” is the motto of this day. For one who is searching, this summons repeatedly turns into a spontaneous plea, a plea addressed especially to Mary, who has given us Christ as her Son: “Show us Jesus!” Let us make this prayer today with our whole heart; let us make this prayer above and beyond the present moment, as we inwardly seek the Face of the Redeemer. “Show us Jesus!” Mary responds, showing him to us in the first instance as a child. God has made himself small for us. God comes not with external force, but he comes in the powerlessness of his love, which is where his true strength lies. He places himself in our hands. He asks for our love. He invites us to become small ourselves, to come down from our high thrones and to learn to be childlike before God. He speaks to us informally. He asks us to trust him and thus to learn how to live in truth and love. The child Jesus naturally reminds us also of all the children in the world, in whom he wishes to come to us. Children who live in poverty; who are exploited as soldiers; who have never been able to experience the love of parents; sick and suffering children, but also those who are joyful and healthy. Europe has become child-poor: we want everything for ourselves, and place little trust in the future. Yet the earth will be deprived of a future only when the forces of the human heart and of reason illuminated by the heart are extinguished – when the face of God no longer shines upon the earth. Where God is, there is the future.

“To gaze upon Christ”: let us look briefly now at the Crucified One above the high altar. God saved the world not by the sword, but by the Cross. In dying, Jesus extends his arms. This, in the first place, is the posture of the Passion, in which he lets himself be nailed to the Cross for us, in order to give us his life. Yet outstretched arms are also the posture of one who prays, the stance assumed by the priest when he extends his arms in prayer: Jesus transformed the Passion, his suffering and his death, into prayer, and in this way he transformed it into an act of love for God and for humanity. That, finally, is why the outstretched arms of the Crucified One are also a gesture of embracing, by which he draws us to himself, wishing to enfold us in his loving hands. In this way he is an image of the living God, he is God himself, and we may entrust ourselves to him.

Yes to God, Yes to Life

“To gaze upon Christ!” If we do this, we realize that Christianity is more than and different from a moral code, from a series of requirements and laws. It is the gift of a friendship that lasts through life and death: “No longer do I call you servants, but friends” (Jn 15:15), the Lord says to his disciples. We entrust ourselves to this friendship. Yet precisely because Christianity is more than a moral system, because it is the gift of friendship, for this reason it also contains within itself great moral strength, which is so urgently needed today on account of the challenges of our time. If with Jesus Christ and his Church we constantly re-read the Ten Commandments of Sinai, entering into their full depth, then a great, valid and lasting teaching unfolds before us. The Ten Commandments are first and foremost a “yes” to God, to a God who loves us and leads us, who carries us and yet allows us our freedom: indeed, it is he who makes our freedom real (the first three commandments). It is a “yes” to the family (fourth commandment), a “yes” to life (fifth commandment), a “yes” to responsible love (sixth commandment), a “yes” to solidarity, to social responsibility and to justice (seventh commandment), a “yes” to truth (eighth commandment) and a “yes” to respect for other people and for what is theirs (ninth and tenth commandments). By the strength of our friendship with the living God we live this manifold “yes” and at the same time we carry it as a signpost into this world of ours today.

Mary Shows Us Jesus

“Show us Jesus!” It was with this plea to the Mother of the Lord that we set off on our journey here. This same plea will accompany us as we return to our daily lives. And we know that Mary hears our prayer: yes, whenever we look towards Mary, she shows us Jesus. Thus we can find the right path, we can follow it step by step, filled with joyful confidence that the path leads into the light – into the joy of eternal Love. Amen.


54 posted on 09/08/2007 10:34:40 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Global2010

**Yes he is right but I dont like how the article reffered to his speaking the truth saying he Blasted and slammed.**

Typical leftist lamestream media. BTW, I just posted the REAL homily.

(Smile)


55 posted on 09/08/2007 10:38:03 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Title is wrong:

“Pope blasts Catholic Europeans for not having enough children”

There, that’s better. He doesn’t give a fig if the prorestants never have another kid! :)


56 posted on 09/08/2007 10:39:06 AM PDT by britemp
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To: Wurlitzer

Please go back and read Genesis. Your words are not the message given by God.


57 posted on 09/08/2007 10:39:12 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Sooth2222

‘USA - 2.08’

That must be just about the only benefit of having a huge open border onto a third world catholic country! :)


58 posted on 09/08/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by britemp
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To: BlackElk

Thanks for your kind words.


59 posted on 09/08/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jas3

“How many kids does the Pope have?

2 separate issues that you are mixing.

Why doesn’t the Pope have children?
He has answered this question regarding the vow of celibacy as a discipline required by MOST priests (converted married priests are allowed to remain married)

He took a vow of celibacy - sacrificing traditional marriage and fatherhood in order to serve God “for the sake of the kingdom”.

This has nothing to do with selfishness and everything to do with selflesness.

His vocation is different from the vocation that most human beings pursue...marriage and parenthood.

Who is considered to be crazy and irresponsible these days?
Just ask anyone who has had more than 2 children.
Larger families are considered to be freaks.
Why?

We have become materialistic, and children are considered to be burdens, inconveniences, and impediments to adult “happiness.”


60 posted on 09/08/2007 10:45:56 AM PDT by Scotswife
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